I got a hand-addressed envelope from a local address today. I did not recognize the name, but I recognized the part of town it was sent from.
It was a hand-written letter from a woman I'd never met, who saw that I'd given birth in the vital statistics section of the newspaper. She was writing to congratulate me, and to let me know that she would be happy to welcome me into her church, so that my baby could have God in his life. She casually mentioned that he needed extra blessings, as he was born out of wedlock.
The odd thing is that our local birth announcements only state that a boy was born to (my name) at Hamot Hospital on January 17, 2008. She must have used that info to obtain my home address, which is not hard, since I'm listed in the phone book.
All in all, it was a very kind gesture on her part. I can't help but feel a bit weirded about it, however. I guess times have changed, and we can't trust anyone anymore, especially when it comes to our childrens' safety.
How would you feel about this?
send her some bloody chicken bones %26amp; tell her she is welcome to join you in celebrating your own faith. I mean WTF you want me to take care of this for you?
Reply:That does seem a bit odd....
You can never be too careful!
Reply:I would be totally weirded out by that.
Reply:I was thinking the same thing, Logans mommy!
/I would have been offended
Reply:I would feel very weird about that. It sounds kind of creepy actually. I would keep the letter just in case something happens, because you never know.
Reply:Yikes. :|
Btw.. I think I just saw something that looked like a floating woman %26amp; umbrella...
Reply:That is kind of weird, and why my local hospital and newspaper have worked together to stop publishing births. It's too risky. You know, despite that weird fact, I think I would be more creeped out by the fact that it seems that she wasn't really writing to congratulate you, but to tell you that your baby is going to burn in hell if you don't take him to her church. That would concern me.
Reply:Honestly myself, I would be p*ssed because I am not religious, and do not like to be bothered by people who think that is wrong.
I never mention religion or the fact that I'm not religious to people who are, so I expect the same from them.
If you are religious, and are interested, that's great that you have someone who is so willing to support you... but the fact that she assumed, and also wrote he needs "Extra blessings" because you guys aren't married.... well that is rude.
Reply:It is not her business whether he was born in or out of wedlock. He has enough blessings having such a caring momma as yourself. Keep the envelope and her name in case you ever hear from her again. You cant be too cautious when it comes to your children. Warn your single mother friends. Maybe write a letter to the editor, call your local paper or the police.
Over all .....Creepy!!
Reply:that would personally freak me out. My little girls are my life, and something like that, even though it was a kind gesture, would make me worry about their safety.
Reply:I would be freaked out. And I think a little offended.
Reply:Yeah, what Tanya said. Actually, maybe I'd contact her church, if it's at all mainstream. I don't think any normal churches would dig that.
Overall: ew.
Reply:I would be weirded out and offended. So what if the child is born out of wedlock??? This is not the 1950's.
If I had a relationship in the past, I would be writing her back to say thank you.
If this is a stranger- and it was- no way.
Good luck!
Reply:Reminds me of that movie "Where the Heart is" w/ Natalie Portman.
That couple from Midnight Mississippi came to bring the word of God into 'The Walmart baby's' life because she was an abomination. When they were denied into the house, they later came back and stole the baby to baptise her. LOL. I love that movie..Be careful, theres some crazy people out there.
Reply:I agree w/ Logan's Mommy... I totally thought of that movie too!!!
I wouldn't be wierded out or offeded by the religious aspect of it... maybe because I am pretty religious myself, maybe not... but I would we wierded out and sort of worried about the safety issue... sort of like this lady stalked me and my baby - regardless of the reason.
I would personally call the local police department... and tell them about it... maybe bring them a copy of the letter and address. Just to sort of let them know... God forbid... if anything should happen. If not for yourself and your children, then for someone else's.
This is most likely totally harmless, just a religious die hard on a mission to save all the "illegitimate babies" from who knows what... but what if it isnt?
Reply:although she may have meant well, it is completely uncalled for to do what she did. and not to mention disrespect to you and your baby. people should not try and push religion on other people, though it happens. i would definately feel violated and angry. she now knows where you live and i have heard some cases where they actually show up to your door with bibles. i would call the church and tell them that you dont appreciate being violated.
Reply:You sound like you are taking it better then I would it definitely would have freaked me out and the extra blessings for being born out of wedlock would probably have made my head explode!
Saturday, April 17, 2010
How to find out if you are adopted - when no one will tell.?
My husband was supposedly born in Texas at the same hospital as his siblings. We did a serch of county records and there is no record of him. All 3 of his siblings were listed, but not him. His family will not talk to us now because he has questioned things. We have no way of knowing his real name, birthdate, birth city or state. His mother kept us away from his Grandpa (the only one who would've talked) who lived with her then claimed he died 300 miles away, but said she didn't have a funeral for him. She flipped out when we asked for his Birth certificate so he could get a passport (she never gave it to him). We ordered one from the state and they sent a "Certification of Vital Statistics". She wouldn't give him his SS card when we needed it for a home loan, then she gave him one that looked nothing like mine (same age, same state). So we do have pleanty of reason to doubt, we just have no clue where to begin.
How to find out if you are adopted - when no one will tell.?
Look at the Date it was filed with vital statistics. If there is a period of time between the birthdate and the filing date, it is more than likely an amended certificate.
Make sure you ask for a 'full long-form birth certificate' they contain more details than the short form.
I'm so sorry if your hubby has been deceived in this way, there is no excuse for secrets and lies. None.
There are other things he can do to discover the truth. You may find the information on this site helpful. Apply for Non-Identifying information and join the registries, this will give you an answer either way; and I would suggest finding his birth on the Texas birth index too
http://www.geocities.com/tmusso.geo/stat...
Reply:%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;His family will not talk to us now because he has questioned things.%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;
bingo. they're running scared. and they are lying. i wouldn't be remotely shocked to find out he's adopted.
Reply:get a copy of his birth certificate from vital statistics and look for a notation that says "ammended" on it.
Reply:May have to hire a PI to investigate. Can't believe they won't be up front. Could he have been kidnap?
Reply:Welcome to adoption.
I have an "amended" birth certificate that lists my adoptive parents as if they were my biological progenitors. And it was registered with the county clerk almost a year after my birth when my adoption became finalized. Most people don't notice that my birth certificate is weird. But if you look closely and you know what to look for the hints are there.
Y'know...maybe it is just time to sit down with his mom and ask for the truth. If it were me, I'd tell her this is her ONE and ONLY chance to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I'd advise her that if you find out anything contradictory or very different in the future you will then know that she willingly lied to you during the talk. I think an important question to ask her is WHY she is being so secretive...
Reply:Definitely have him request his long form birth certificate from the state. Original birth certificates are signed by the doctor/midwife who was present at the birth. Amended birth certificates are signed by the clerk and sometimes by the adoptive parents. Another option is to contact the Surrogates or Family Court in the county his adoptive parents resided when he was born/adopted. Unfortunately, some courts won't release any information without the adoptive parents permission - no matter what the age of the adoptee. Try to get a Certificate of Adoption. It won't have his original name or his birth parents' names, but it will be incontrovertable proof that he was adopted.
Reply:What on earth is a Certification of Vital Statistics? You asked for a Birth Cerificate. I would go back and say this isn't what I asked for, can I have my Birth Certificate? If they can't give you one, then ask why? If you get nowhere, then it definitely looks fishy. Everyone has a birth certificate, even if it is not the original.
Aside from expensive investigators, the only people who will know are those directly involved. It sounds as if they are hiding something. If things are so bad that his family are not talking to him then he has nothing to lose. Try to arrange a meeting with is mother, say you don't want to argue, but need to sit down and resolve things. Explain that you have no desire to cut anyone out and his mother is his mother, BUT, she is doing nothing to make him feel secure, and he believes he may be adopted. If she can be made to see that she has more chance of losing him as a son by keeping him in the dark, than by telling him the truth and letting him find his heritage, she may just open up.
Otherwise, what about old neighbours or family friends from when they were children - someone must know!
Reply:The certificate of birth and the certificate from vital statistics are the same thing. Whether you are adopted or not, when you order a new copy of your birth certificate it will look different from year to year as the office changes forms but there will not be a difference between an adopted child's and a biological child's birth certificate.
The best place to start in Texas is here:
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/a...
just say that he is adopted and register, that way if he is and his parents or birth family is searching for him the #'s will match up (ie: DOB) and the computer will make the connection.
The other thing is that SS cards for adopted people are the same as everyone else. Have him order a new one from the SS office (they are free) and you get one at the same time, you will see that there is no difference between the two.
Where I live, in Oregon, we have laws that allow adopted people to open their sealed records, see if there is anyone working in your state to make it happen, and if so tell as many people as you can so that the laws get passed. Here, we file the paperwork, pay the fee, see the counselor, then we can see our whole "pre-adoption
How to find out if you are adopted - when no one will tell.?
Look at the Date it was filed with vital statistics. If there is a period of time between the birthdate and the filing date, it is more than likely an amended certificate.
Make sure you ask for a 'full long-form birth certificate' they contain more details than the short form.
I'm so sorry if your hubby has been deceived in this way, there is no excuse for secrets and lies. None.
There are other things he can do to discover the truth. You may find the information on this site helpful. Apply for Non-Identifying information and join the registries, this will give you an answer either way; and I would suggest finding his birth on the Texas birth index too
http://www.geocities.com/tmusso.geo/stat...
Reply:%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;His family will not talk to us now because he has questioned things.%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;
bingo. they're running scared. and they are lying. i wouldn't be remotely shocked to find out he's adopted.
Reply:get a copy of his birth certificate from vital statistics and look for a notation that says "ammended" on it.
Reply:May have to hire a PI to investigate. Can't believe they won't be up front. Could he have been kidnap?
Reply:Welcome to adoption.
I have an "amended" birth certificate that lists my adoptive parents as if they were my biological progenitors. And it was registered with the county clerk almost a year after my birth when my adoption became finalized. Most people don't notice that my birth certificate is weird. But if you look closely and you know what to look for the hints are there.
Y'know...maybe it is just time to sit down with his mom and ask for the truth. If it were me, I'd tell her this is her ONE and ONLY chance to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I'd advise her that if you find out anything contradictory or very different in the future you will then know that she willingly lied to you during the talk. I think an important question to ask her is WHY she is being so secretive...
Reply:Definitely have him request his long form birth certificate from the state. Original birth certificates are signed by the doctor/midwife who was present at the birth. Amended birth certificates are signed by the clerk and sometimes by the adoptive parents. Another option is to contact the Surrogates or Family Court in the county his adoptive parents resided when he was born/adopted. Unfortunately, some courts won't release any information without the adoptive parents permission - no matter what the age of the adoptee. Try to get a Certificate of Adoption. It won't have his original name or his birth parents' names, but it will be incontrovertable proof that he was adopted.
Reply:What on earth is a Certification of Vital Statistics? You asked for a Birth Cerificate. I would go back and say this isn't what I asked for, can I have my Birth Certificate? If they can't give you one, then ask why? If you get nowhere, then it definitely looks fishy. Everyone has a birth certificate, even if it is not the original.
Aside from expensive investigators, the only people who will know are those directly involved. It sounds as if they are hiding something. If things are so bad that his family are not talking to him then he has nothing to lose. Try to arrange a meeting with is mother, say you don't want to argue, but need to sit down and resolve things. Explain that you have no desire to cut anyone out and his mother is his mother, BUT, she is doing nothing to make him feel secure, and he believes he may be adopted. If she can be made to see that she has more chance of losing him as a son by keeping him in the dark, than by telling him the truth and letting him find his heritage, she may just open up.
Otherwise, what about old neighbours or family friends from when they were children - someone must know!
Reply:The certificate of birth and the certificate from vital statistics are the same thing. Whether you are adopted or not, when you order a new copy of your birth certificate it will look different from year to year as the office changes forms but there will not be a difference between an adopted child's and a biological child's birth certificate.
The best place to start in Texas is here:
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/a...
just say that he is adopted and register, that way if he is and his parents or birth family is searching for him the #'s will match up (ie: DOB) and the computer will make the connection.
The other thing is that SS cards for adopted people are the same as everyone else. Have him order a new one from the SS office (they are free) and you get one at the same time, you will see that there is no difference between the two.
Where I live, in Oregon, we have laws that allow adopted people to open their sealed records, see if there is anyone working in your state to make it happen, and if so tell as many people as you can so that the laws get passed. Here, we file the paperwork, pay the fee, see the counselor, then we can see our whole "pre-adoption
Passport on hold?
My wife and I applied for our passports on Nov. 26th for a trip to Mexico that departs on Feb. 5, 2008, I know I had plenty of time to get it so I didnt expedite. My wife received hers on Dec. 22, I received a letter telling me my birth certificate is a short form not a long form (WTF?????) Even though my BC was from vital statistics from Texas and I've used it to get into Mexico before. So I order my Long form Express but I am running out of time, I called the Passport Center and they told me I have to send it to them, I cannot go to a local agency and get one expedited because when they run my name it will come up "on hold" and they will not issue one. Am I screwed? This is sad. I still have to send it to South Carolina, they told by this week if I wanted to make it. Texas takes 10-15 bus. days, I ordered on Dec. 24th and paid for express mail.
Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks
Passport on hold?
You are in sort of a helpless position...not much you can do. when you get the birth certificate, mail it in to passport office express mail. You could try calling the birth certificate office and asking if they could do it IMMEDIATELY PLEEZZE...beg! can you reschedule your trip for a couple of weeks later? Did you ask the passport office if they can CANCEL the application they have so you could submit a new expedited one? You have probably already thought of these things, but figured I'd try. Hope it works out for you. also, I presume you are planning to FLY to Mexico. Passports are not needed for LAND and SEA travel to Mexico until after summer 2008...that requirement was pushed back and the exact date is not yet set.
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Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks
Passport on hold?
You are in sort of a helpless position...not much you can do. when you get the birth certificate, mail it in to passport office express mail. You could try calling the birth certificate office and asking if they could do it IMMEDIATELY PLEEZZE...beg! can you reschedule your trip for a couple of weeks later? Did you ask the passport office if they can CANCEL the application they have so you could submit a new expedited one? You have probably already thought of these things, but figured I'd try. Hope it works out for you. also, I presume you are planning to FLY to Mexico. Passports are not needed for LAND and SEA travel to Mexico until after summer 2008...that requirement was pushed back and the exact date is not yet set.
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What do you think about this quote from The Basic Bastard?
"The amended birth certificate, which names the adoptive parents in the place of the birth parents, was first proposed by two Registrars of Vital Statistics in 1931 and was utilized by most states by the end of World War II. In the decades leading up to World War II, court records and original birth certificates were sealed to the public, the explicit reason given being to protect the adoptive family from exposure to embarrassment or even blackmail regarding the illegitimate origins of the adoptee, or in cases where the adoptee had not been told of the adoption to keep that the prerogative of the adoptive parents. Many states sealed adoption records to birth parents as well, fearing their interference in the life of the adoptee. Nowhere in any of these original statutes is there is any reference to the protection of birth parents' privacy."
http://www.bastards.org/bb/2.SealedHistU...
What do you think about this quote from The Basic Bastard?
It raises all kinds of questions, I think.
Primarily, in my mind, is: "Why did it switch?" If the practice began in order to protect adoptees from the indignity of illegitimacy (an indignity that seems alive and well, if recent discussions here are any indication, since so many people seemed at pains to deny that adoptees are illegitimate - which makes me think they believe being illegitimate is a bad thing to be), why has it become about protecting first parents from adoptees?
Apparently, being a child born to a single mother is no longer an issue. Now, the indignity is in giving birth to a child if one is a single woman.
This quote is simply one more piece of evidence that sealed records isn't really about protecting privacy of first parents. But it does beg the question: Why do so many adoption agencies work so hard to keep these records sealed?
Reply:I think the idea of sealed records in the 1930's was indeed to protect the adoptee. Being illegitimate in those days was a scandal and often resulted in discrimination against the illegitimate child--even into adulthood.
BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED! The need for this sort of subterfuge no longer exists.
Reply:I think the concept/theory is way past outdated. It's 2008. we actually have scientific data now to support the reasons that reunion with adoptees and their first families is NOT detrimental and is often quite healing. We are hiding behind old ideas that were not based on any kind of clinical studies to begin with.!!!!!
Reply:It makes me want to scream. I DON'T WANT TO BE PROTECTED FROM THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
I don't want my children to be protected from the truth!!!!!!!! I don't want their natural families to be protected from the truth!!!!!!!!!!
I grew up with a damn huge elephant in my living room. I'll be DAMNED if my kids are going to do the same thing.
Reply:I think the records where closed to protect the birthparents but its not right for the adopted children or adopted people they shouldnt do that people should be allowed to know there birth certificate
Reply:It was a sign of the times and worked for that generation.
Reply:i think that it shows the mindset of people in the 1930's.
Reply:Shoot, as an adoptee, I NEVER felt and still don't "feel like all the other kids," because I didn't know where I came from and nobody could tell me. I felt ashamed of myself. Being born to an unwed mother had nothing to do with that feeling--it was the cover-up that did it.
It's high time we either did away with sealed records altogether or allowed adoptees access to their records upon coming of age. And the base lie that this was done to protect my first mother from being found by me should be corrected wherever it's found until people finally understand that records were sealed for the convenience and emotional security of adoptive parents.
Reply:i think it's archaic. the child seems to be the last priority in that thinking.
it seems to me that though it doesn't mention birth parent privacy, that it must have been a factor. In those days they were considered outcasts from society, as opposed to these times, when professional, well-educated single women and movie stars are choosing to have children on their own today. i think the "illegitimacy" label is fading away. at least i hope so. who cares if a child was born into or out of a marriage? it's basic human decency to treat children with love and respect regardless of their origins. what happened to the notion of judge not lest ye be judged? that quote sounds like something stemming out of old time bible-thumping intolerant religion.
i think it's important for adoptees to be able to know their origins. i would think it would also be helpful to the adoptive parents as they are raising this child to be able to have access to this background as health issues pop up.
Reply:I have one adopted child and two biological children, and my name is on the birth certificates of all three of my children. My son didn't happen to be "illegitimate".
I think it was good for him to have my name and my husband's name on his birth certificate, so when he did things like hand in a birth certificate for baseball (or whatever) he could feel like all the other kids (rather than having a stranger's name on the certificate).
I think the amended birth certificate is kind of nice for reasons like that.
As far as birth parents go, except in the case of a birth mother who was raped, I just feel that someone let an unwanted pregnancy happen by either being too careless or by taking a chance. Then, too, some adoptees are adopted because their birth mother hurt them or neglected them.
Children become adoptees because of the actions of their birth parents, and adoptive parents are the ones who have to figure out how to make their child feel secure and loved and the same as every other child. Some adoptive mothers have to pick up the pieces of damage done for years.
I think the protection and interest of the child is Number 1 at all times, and I think adoptive parents have a right to expect a certain amount of protection, as well as support in their efforts to make the child feel as secure and whole as possible.
I'm very sorry for the birth parents, but (again, except in the case of rape) they are the ones who created a situation which led to one person having to deal with being adopted and two other people (the adoptive parents) trying to deal with whatever challenges there are in trying to make an adopted child feel "like everyone else".
Birth mothers pay a heartbreaking price for their mistake(s); and I'm sorry for that, but they are the ones who created the situation. I'm not of the old fashioned kind of thinking that birth mothers ought to be ostracized or punished, but if there's some rotten situation related to the birth certificate, well, I guess, that's part of the rotten price they end up paying for letting an unwanted pregnancy occur.
Under normal and legal adoptions adoptive parents are screened for being emotionally and mentally solid. Birth parents have already created a situation which tells the world they aren't the most "solid" or mature people. I don't think it's such a horrible injustice for laws to keep an eye out to protect the child from a potentially unstable birth mother.
http://www.bastards.org/bb/2.SealedHistU...
What do you think about this quote from The Basic Bastard?
It raises all kinds of questions, I think.
Primarily, in my mind, is: "Why did it switch?" If the practice began in order to protect adoptees from the indignity of illegitimacy (an indignity that seems alive and well, if recent discussions here are any indication, since so many people seemed at pains to deny that adoptees are illegitimate - which makes me think they believe being illegitimate is a bad thing to be), why has it become about protecting first parents from adoptees?
Apparently, being a child born to a single mother is no longer an issue. Now, the indignity is in giving birth to a child if one is a single woman.
This quote is simply one more piece of evidence that sealed records isn't really about protecting privacy of first parents. But it does beg the question: Why do so many adoption agencies work so hard to keep these records sealed?
Reply:I think the idea of sealed records in the 1930's was indeed to protect the adoptee. Being illegitimate in those days was a scandal and often resulted in discrimination against the illegitimate child--even into adulthood.
BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED! The need for this sort of subterfuge no longer exists.
Reply:I think the concept/theory is way past outdated. It's 2008. we actually have scientific data now to support the reasons that reunion with adoptees and their first families is NOT detrimental and is often quite healing. We are hiding behind old ideas that were not based on any kind of clinical studies to begin with.!!!!!
Reply:It makes me want to scream. I DON'T WANT TO BE PROTECTED FROM THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
I don't want my children to be protected from the truth!!!!!!!! I don't want their natural families to be protected from the truth!!!!!!!!!!
I grew up with a damn huge elephant in my living room. I'll be DAMNED if my kids are going to do the same thing.
Reply:I think the records where closed to protect the birthparents but its not right for the adopted children or adopted people they shouldnt do that people should be allowed to know there birth certificate
Reply:It was a sign of the times and worked for that generation.
Reply:i think that it shows the mindset of people in the 1930's.
Reply:Shoot, as an adoptee, I NEVER felt and still don't "feel like all the other kids," because I didn't know where I came from and nobody could tell me. I felt ashamed of myself. Being born to an unwed mother had nothing to do with that feeling--it was the cover-up that did it.
It's high time we either did away with sealed records altogether or allowed adoptees access to their records upon coming of age. And the base lie that this was done to protect my first mother from being found by me should be corrected wherever it's found until people finally understand that records were sealed for the convenience and emotional security of adoptive parents.
Reply:i think it's archaic. the child seems to be the last priority in that thinking.
it seems to me that though it doesn't mention birth parent privacy, that it must have been a factor. In those days they were considered outcasts from society, as opposed to these times, when professional, well-educated single women and movie stars are choosing to have children on their own today. i think the "illegitimacy" label is fading away. at least i hope so. who cares if a child was born into or out of a marriage? it's basic human decency to treat children with love and respect regardless of their origins. what happened to the notion of judge not lest ye be judged? that quote sounds like something stemming out of old time bible-thumping intolerant religion.
i think it's important for adoptees to be able to know their origins. i would think it would also be helpful to the adoptive parents as they are raising this child to be able to have access to this background as health issues pop up.
Reply:I have one adopted child and two biological children, and my name is on the birth certificates of all three of my children. My son didn't happen to be "illegitimate".
I think it was good for him to have my name and my husband's name on his birth certificate, so when he did things like hand in a birth certificate for baseball (or whatever) he could feel like all the other kids (rather than having a stranger's name on the certificate).
I think the amended birth certificate is kind of nice for reasons like that.
As far as birth parents go, except in the case of a birth mother who was raped, I just feel that someone let an unwanted pregnancy happen by either being too careless or by taking a chance. Then, too, some adoptees are adopted because their birth mother hurt them or neglected them.
Children become adoptees because of the actions of their birth parents, and adoptive parents are the ones who have to figure out how to make their child feel secure and loved and the same as every other child. Some adoptive mothers have to pick up the pieces of damage done for years.
I think the protection and interest of the child is Number 1 at all times, and I think adoptive parents have a right to expect a certain amount of protection, as well as support in their efforts to make the child feel as secure and whole as possible.
I'm very sorry for the birth parents, but (again, except in the case of rape) they are the ones who created a situation which led to one person having to deal with being adopted and two other people (the adoptive parents) trying to deal with whatever challenges there are in trying to make an adopted child feel "like everyone else".
Birth mothers pay a heartbreaking price for their mistake(s); and I'm sorry for that, but they are the ones who created the situation. I'm not of the old fashioned kind of thinking that birth mothers ought to be ostracized or punished, but if there's some rotten situation related to the birth certificate, well, I guess, that's part of the rotten price they end up paying for letting an unwanted pregnancy occur.
Under normal and legal adoptions adoptive parents are screened for being emotionally and mentally solid. Birth parents have already created a situation which tells the world they aren't the most "solid" or mature people. I don't think it's such a horrible injustice for laws to keep an eye out to protect the child from a potentially unstable birth mother.
What should I wear??!?
hey yahoo trinny and susannah wannabes!!
Right Ive been asked to a wedding in March - I want to look stunning obviously, but am unsure of what to wear so would appreciate a bit of help!
So whilst I do want to accentuate my curves - I dont want to show too much either if you know what I mean...
So any ideas would be really good as I need to get cracking on getting an outfit... vital statistics would be Im a 38E on top, size 10 waist and about 5 foot 6 - so if you have any ideas what would look good it would be much apprciated!
Thanks a mil!
xx
What should I wear??!?
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I think all these dresses are stunning - I am going to a party next month and I am gonna be buying one of these myself!!!!
They each have shoes and bags on the same page that look really nice with the dresses..........
Hope you like them too - I love the 50's style very flattering and great at playing up them curves! The red one is more of a show stopper I think but the black ones are very classy....
Reply:well to know totally i would need to know your hair colour and eye colour. if you have blue eyes, go for a shade the best same as you can. not long i dont think, about just above knee. if red hair a long dark green if good. if brown hair hot pink with silver knee length would be perfect, and if blond with not blue eyes, go for the blue dress anyway. good luck!
Reply:what ever you do dont were whites because the bride is the only one who weres the white dress were something that matchesw with your skin tone and the color of your eyes and hair xxcassiexx
Reply:Hey! Well hit the sales while they're still on and try to find just a simple black dress, not too low-cut but no lower than the knee (I got a nice one at H%26amp;M). Then, with the money you save on the dress, accessorize like crazy! Get a wide belt in gold or red and some chunky jewellery, and some matching shoes :) It's a really classic style but I think from your description you'll look amazing.
Good luck! xxx
Reply:in whites
Reply:i am roughly the same size as you, so i would wear a dress that comes to about the knees with a brand just under the breast with i nice pair of high heels, have a good time x
Reply:There is always that little black dress that you can make stunning with the right jewelery. You can dress that up with black, black and white or even red heels!
You can look through some fashion magazines and find a look you like and copy it.
Right Ive been asked to a wedding in March - I want to look stunning obviously, but am unsure of what to wear so would appreciate a bit of help!
So whilst I do want to accentuate my curves - I dont want to show too much either if you know what I mean...
So any ideas would be really good as I need to get cracking on getting an outfit... vital statistics would be Im a 38E on top, size 10 waist and about 5 foot 6 - so if you have any ideas what would look good it would be much apprciated!
Thanks a mil!
xx
What should I wear??!?
http://www.oasis-stores.com/fcp/product/...
http://www.oasis-stores.com/fcp/product/...
http://www.oasis-stores.com/fcp/product/...
I think all these dresses are stunning - I am going to a party next month and I am gonna be buying one of these myself!!!!
They each have shoes and bags on the same page that look really nice with the dresses..........
Hope you like them too - I love the 50's style very flattering and great at playing up them curves! The red one is more of a show stopper I think but the black ones are very classy....
Reply:well to know totally i would need to know your hair colour and eye colour. if you have blue eyes, go for a shade the best same as you can. not long i dont think, about just above knee. if red hair a long dark green if good. if brown hair hot pink with silver knee length would be perfect, and if blond with not blue eyes, go for the blue dress anyway. good luck!
Reply:what ever you do dont were whites because the bride is the only one who weres the white dress were something that matchesw with your skin tone and the color of your eyes and hair xxcassiexx
Reply:Hey! Well hit the sales while they're still on and try to find just a simple black dress, not too low-cut but no lower than the knee (I got a nice one at H%26amp;M). Then, with the money you save on the dress, accessorize like crazy! Get a wide belt in gold or red and some chunky jewellery, and some matching shoes :) It's a really classic style but I think from your description you'll look amazing.
Good luck! xxx
Reply:in whites
Reply:i am roughly the same size as you, so i would wear a dress that comes to about the knees with a brand just under the breast with i nice pair of high heels, have a good time x
Reply:There is always that little black dress that you can make stunning with the right jewelery. You can dress that up with black, black and white or even red heels!
You can look through some fashion magazines and find a look you like and copy it.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Lack of Divorce Decree to apply for marriage license. What do you do?
I noticed that for my state, a copy of the divorce decree is required to apply for the marriage license. What if you don't have that? Do you write the court for a copy of the document or is just proof of divorce from Vital Statistics usually enough. Anybody who has needed this know?
Lack of Divorce Decree to apply for marriage license. What do you do?
You can pretty much go to the court that issued your decree for a copy. This may cost you a few bucks, but its worth it, right?
Reply:I wonder why you don't already have a copy of the decree. This seems like a valuable document that you should have obtained as soon as it was available from the courthouse.
Anyway all you have to do is go to the courthouse and ask for it and pay the money to have it copied. Mine cost $1 per page and was about 40 pages long (also includes custody agreement though that is quite lengthy).
I would also say that if the rules say you need a 'divorce degree' to get a marriage license than that is what you need. What can Vital Statistics provide you with that says you are divorced? The only proof I have is my decree.
Reply:Go to the courthouse and ask for a copy of your divorce decree. Or you can also call and they will mail you one.
Reply:You will need to contact the court that granted the decree for a certified copy of the decree. You'll pay a few bucks.
Reply:Marriage and Divorce are considered public matters. Anyone who knows you and the county in which you were legally divorced can go to the courthouse and get a copy. It may cost about 50cents per page but it will be worthwhile, right? Ask your ex too, he/she might have a copy.
Reply:Why don't you already have a copy? You can go to the court house and get a copy rom the clerk, most of the time it's just a dollar per page. Keep this one, you will need it forever.
Reply:You have to get a copy of your final divorce degree from the courthouse.
I wish all states required proof that you are legally divorced, it would help prevent a lot of people from committing bigamy.
Lack of Divorce Decree to apply for marriage license. What do you do?
You can pretty much go to the court that issued your decree for a copy. This may cost you a few bucks, but its worth it, right?
Reply:I wonder why you don't already have a copy of the decree. This seems like a valuable document that you should have obtained as soon as it was available from the courthouse.
Anyway all you have to do is go to the courthouse and ask for it and pay the money to have it copied. Mine cost $1 per page and was about 40 pages long (also includes custody agreement though that is quite lengthy).
I would also say that if the rules say you need a 'divorce degree' to get a marriage license than that is what you need. What can Vital Statistics provide you with that says you are divorced? The only proof I have is my decree.
Reply:Go to the courthouse and ask for a copy of your divorce decree. Or you can also call and they will mail you one.
Reply:You will need to contact the court that granted the decree for a certified copy of the decree. You'll pay a few bucks.
Reply:Marriage and Divorce are considered public matters. Anyone who knows you and the county in which you were legally divorced can go to the courthouse and get a copy. It may cost about 50cents per page but it will be worthwhile, right? Ask your ex too, he/she might have a copy.
Reply:Why don't you already have a copy? You can go to the court house and get a copy rom the clerk, most of the time it's just a dollar per page. Keep this one, you will need it forever.
Reply:You have to get a copy of your final divorce degree from the courthouse.
I wish all states required proof that you are legally divorced, it would help prevent a lot of people from committing bigamy.
Weird Sizing?
For info:
I'm 31yrs old, 12st 4lbs, 5'6" tall and using two tape measures I have measured my vital statistics as the following:
Chest: 46" (Bra 40F/42E)
Waist: 42" (narrowest point)
Hips: 47" (widest point)
At Marks %26amp; Spencer I usually wear a size 18, according to their size charts a size 18 is:
Chest 42"
Waist 35"
Hips 45"
or Per Una
Chest 41"
Waist 34"
Hips 45"
If I used the size chart as a guide I would need:
Chest: Size 24
Waist: Size 24
Hips: Size 20
How can this be so drastically different? My measurements are 100% accurate and I've only found one garment at M%26amp;S that doesn't fit me and that's at the waistband.
Weird Sizing?
I have found that size charts lie all the time.
It is possible that they made the size chart a while ago and have since changed the patter that they are using to make the clothes.
Size doesn't really matter all that much anyhow, its really how the clothes fit your body and how confident you feel in them.
false teeth
I'm 31yrs old, 12st 4lbs, 5'6" tall and using two tape measures I have measured my vital statistics as the following:
Chest: 46" (Bra 40F/42E)
Waist: 42" (narrowest point)
Hips: 47" (widest point)
At Marks %26amp; Spencer I usually wear a size 18, according to their size charts a size 18 is:
Chest 42"
Waist 35"
Hips 45"
or Per Una
Chest 41"
Waist 34"
Hips 45"
If I used the size chart as a guide I would need:
Chest: Size 24
Waist: Size 24
Hips: Size 20
How can this be so drastically different? My measurements are 100% accurate and I've only found one garment at M%26amp;S that doesn't fit me and that's at the waistband.
Weird Sizing?
I have found that size charts lie all the time.
It is possible that they made the size chart a while ago and have since changed the patter that they are using to make the clothes.
Size doesn't really matter all that much anyhow, its really how the clothes fit your body and how confident you feel in them.
false teeth
What do you think, makes people romantic? Am i correct in my analysis?
In romance, guys uses only one sense(vision) and girls use the rest of the four senses. Thats why, guys like pretty girls with very good vital statistics, and girls like guys who offer them, flowers(smell), chocolates or champagne(taste), funny and witty, good voice(hearing), tender touch(feel)
Note: If any girl feel, i am good in my analysis, and wanna be my great friend.. feel free to ping me.
What do you think, makes people romantic? Am i correct in my analysis?
as long as your wallet is full of currency bills... the world looks beautiful... lest human body do not look that pretty if seen unmasked and less deodorants...
there are many more important jobs to do in our youth... arranging for bread %26amp; butter in the middle age... and securing your old age...
the youth is going to last for another 5 -10 years... whats after that...?
Reply:you have a lot of time in your hands. :)
Reply:I don't beleive all men are only visually stimulated. Have you never noticed the perfume of a woman? Loved the feel of her silky hair? never enjoyed hearing your name whipered in your ear by a soft female voice? I must disagree with your analysis. Sorry.
Reply:In romance, a guy and a girl would use all five senses. If a guy just uses his vision then he is not really romantic just sleazy.
eg there is a girl who can make my stresses disappear and the world seem tranquil and peaceful just by saying my name. i.e. the sound of her voice is what's required.
The smell of her hair if she were to hug me would be astounding, The feeling of her hand in my hand
etc.
do you get the picture?
Your analysis is too shallow.
Reply:Dude I would say you are partially correct %26amp; partially wrong. We are human beings %26amp; we are alike %26amp; still no alike. So, true love or romance comes from heart not from mind. So some girls think from mind and many from heart. True love comes from heart and not from mind(four senses) OK
Reply:Man, you got a lot to learn - and you will clobered in the real world when you start putting these theories to practice
Actually most chicks are turned on by cheating Alpha bad/boy seed spreaders - i.e cave men
Forget the flowers and chocolate - become the non-committing/cheating jerks women crave
Reply:u don say u like to hav sex by jus seeing ur girl..... hey its all needed for both sexes... u like it when ur girl touches u and when she moans and the taste of her saliva... and her very smell... shall we call it a girl smell? Re work on ur analysis
Reply:All girls are not like your analysis
Reply:They are just playing out accepted social codes and rituals just enough to get into each other's pants.
Reply:Your analysis is very simplistic and looks more like a snare to trap simple and sweet girls. U are a wolf in sheep's clothes, trying to trap the poor girls.
Reply:I think you are in cuckoo land
Reply:**** off
Reply:u r right....r u free tonight....ur place or mine...
Note: If any girl feel, i am good in my analysis, and wanna be my great friend.. feel free to ping me.
What do you think, makes people romantic? Am i correct in my analysis?
as long as your wallet is full of currency bills... the world looks beautiful... lest human body do not look that pretty if seen unmasked and less deodorants...
there are many more important jobs to do in our youth... arranging for bread %26amp; butter in the middle age... and securing your old age...
the youth is going to last for another 5 -10 years... whats after that...?
Reply:you have a lot of time in your hands. :)
Reply:I don't beleive all men are only visually stimulated. Have you never noticed the perfume of a woman? Loved the feel of her silky hair? never enjoyed hearing your name whipered in your ear by a soft female voice? I must disagree with your analysis. Sorry.
Reply:In romance, a guy and a girl would use all five senses. If a guy just uses his vision then he is not really romantic just sleazy.
eg there is a girl who can make my stresses disappear and the world seem tranquil and peaceful just by saying my name. i.e. the sound of her voice is what's required.
The smell of her hair if she were to hug me would be astounding, The feeling of her hand in my hand
etc.
do you get the picture?
Your analysis is too shallow.
Reply:Dude I would say you are partially correct %26amp; partially wrong. We are human beings %26amp; we are alike %26amp; still no alike. So, true love or romance comes from heart not from mind. So some girls think from mind and many from heart. True love comes from heart and not from mind(four senses) OK
Reply:Man, you got a lot to learn - and you will clobered in the real world when you start putting these theories to practice
Actually most chicks are turned on by cheating Alpha bad/boy seed spreaders - i.e cave men
Forget the flowers and chocolate - become the non-committing/cheating jerks women crave
Reply:u don say u like to hav sex by jus seeing ur girl..... hey its all needed for both sexes... u like it when ur girl touches u and when she moans and the taste of her saliva... and her very smell... shall we call it a girl smell? Re work on ur analysis
Reply:All girls are not like your analysis
Reply:They are just playing out accepted social codes and rituals just enough to get into each other's pants.
Reply:Your analysis is very simplistic and looks more like a snare to trap simple and sweet girls. U are a wolf in sheep's clothes, trying to trap the poor girls.
Reply:I think you are in cuckoo land
Reply:**** off
Reply:u r right....r u free tonight....ur place or mine...
Immigration???
hi folks mi friend carlos went back to the us and he had hi´s birth certicate and hi´s photo id and they ask him to many questions about where do you live who do you work for and he answerd all that and they saw hi´s ss card and a pay check stub and you know what one guy told him why why why you have all that im ean if you have all the goverment issued documents why do they ask you that stupid question i mean the birth certificate has the signature or the registrar of vital statistics and the raised seal and the ss card and dmv issued id card what do you folks think about that stupid question seriously or tell me how can you get goverment documents if you´re not the person come on p'lease.
Immigration???
Learn to write English! We do have rules regarding punctuation (I did notice you bothered to include a period at the end to indicate your run-on sentence was complete - Thank you).
You call yourself a U.S. Citizen and yet you didn't bother to learn English. Who let you into this country?
Immigration???
Learn to write English! We do have rules regarding punctuation (I did notice you bothered to include a period at the end to indicate your run-on sentence was complete - Thank you).
You call yourself a U.S. Citizen and yet you didn't bother to learn English. Who let you into this country?
Statistics Confidence Intervals?
The forced vital capacity of 11-year-old white boys is normally distributed
with variance = 400^2. The average vital capacity of a sample of 19 boys is 2400 cc.
(a) Construct a 95% confidence interval for this population mean.
(b) Give the precision of this interval.
(c) State the probabilistic interpretation of the result.
Statistics Confidence Intervals?
The formula for a t-based confidence interval for the mean is:
xbar + - tcrit (sd)/sqrt(n)
where
xbar = sample mean
tcrit = the critical value from the t-distribution
sd = the standard deviation
n = sample size
In your case we have n= 19 so we have 18 degrees of freedom and the critical t-value (obtained from a table or calculator) is 2.101. Thus we have
a)
CI = 2400 +- (2.101)(400)/sqrt(19)
CI = (2207.2, 2592.8) approximately
b)
One estimate of precision is half the width of the confidence interval: 192.8 approximately.
c)
If we were repeatedly to take samples of 19 boys and calculate the mean of their vital capacities, 95% of the time the mean we calculated would fall within the limits of the confidence interval we just constructed.
with variance = 400^2. The average vital capacity of a sample of 19 boys is 2400 cc.
(a) Construct a 95% confidence interval for this population mean.
(b) Give the precision of this interval.
(c) State the probabilistic interpretation of the result.
Statistics Confidence Intervals?
The formula for a t-based confidence interval for the mean is:
xbar + - tcrit (sd)/sqrt(n)
where
xbar = sample mean
tcrit = the critical value from the t-distribution
sd = the standard deviation
n = sample size
In your case we have n= 19 so we have 18 degrees of freedom and the critical t-value (obtained from a table or calculator) is 2.101. Thus we have
a)
CI = 2400 +- (2.101)(400)/sqrt(19)
CI = (2207.2, 2592.8) approximately
b)
One estimate of precision is half the width of the confidence interval: 192.8 approximately.
c)
If we were repeatedly to take samples of 19 boys and calculate the mean of their vital capacities, 95% of the time the mean we calculated would fall within the limits of the confidence interval we just constructed.
Where do we draw the line at what IS invasion of privacy by OUR Government?
Like for instance the Total Information Awareness Program, created by The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency of the DOD, which is a system that provides a compleded computerized record of an individuals private life including vital statistics, medical, financial, email, internet, phone, and travel records which more info can be found on at www.darpa.mil/DARPATech2002/presentation... Is this going to far, when you consider this combined with the National ID card which is proposed to have an computer chip in it so any government official can have access to it at any given time? Ah, the computer won't let me put the whole e-mail, after the 20, it is supposed to be 2002 then / then presentation. then html.
Where do we draw the line at what IS invasion of privacy by OUR Government?
There is no line.They do what they want.
Reply:The limits of the government's reach into our private information is deliminated by the Fourth Amendment and cases interpreting it.
The short answer is that they can "listen" for information you give out to the rest of the world, including electronic data but cannot do so to things you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in, such as phone calls, the goings on inside your house, etc. Of course this doesn't apply if there is a search warrant issued by a court or if you are arrested, among others.
**This does not constitute legal advice or an attorney-client relationship; any fiduciary or legal relationship, of any kind, is hereby specifically disclaimed.
broken teeth
Where do we draw the line at what IS invasion of privacy by OUR Government?
There is no line.They do what they want.
Reply:The limits of the government's reach into our private information is deliminated by the Fourth Amendment and cases interpreting it.
The short answer is that they can "listen" for information you give out to the rest of the world, including electronic data but cannot do so to things you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in, such as phone calls, the goings on inside your house, etc. Of course this doesn't apply if there is a search warrant issued by a court or if you are arrested, among others.
**This does not constitute legal advice or an attorney-client relationship; any fiduciary or legal relationship, of any kind, is hereby specifically disclaimed.
broken teeth
Why am I being reported?
I aksed a question "Is the Census bureau and US vital statistics agency engaging in pseudoscience"?
Everything they do is because it was written into law. The Congressman don't even read the bills which are hundreds of pages long. The President then signs the bill as a stimulus package and then the government bureacrats enforce the law just for the sake of it and could care less where the grant money goes because they have no incentive to get accurate statistics.
Is it a troll who works for the census that reported me? All I was doing was asking a question pertaining "bureacracy and science" and I appeal and my appeal is rejected.
Why am I being reported?
its all about they dont like smart people and there trying to push you down and into doing nothing about it so you will give up and not git involved dont belive me go do something aboratious
Reply:Read the CG's about ranting. Just because you put a question mark at the end of something, it doesn't make it a question.
Reply:Clearly the actual question wasn't a serious question. Your issues with the Census bureau are, but I'm sure you didn't expect answers to the comment about pseudoscience. It appears it was purely sarcasm, and not a real question. Answers (yes or no), wouldn't have been beneficial to anyone else... or barely even to you for that matter. I think what you were looking for was a discussion about your view/comments, and discussion isn't permitted on this site. A perfectly reasonable thing to desire, but it's just not allowed on this site. Another forum maybe related to this topic might be a better place for a serious discussion.
Everything they do is because it was written into law. The Congressman don't even read the bills which are hundreds of pages long. The President then signs the bill as a stimulus package and then the government bureacrats enforce the law just for the sake of it and could care less where the grant money goes because they have no incentive to get accurate statistics.
Is it a troll who works for the census that reported me? All I was doing was asking a question pertaining "bureacracy and science" and I appeal and my appeal is rejected.
Why am I being reported?
its all about they dont like smart people and there trying to push you down and into doing nothing about it so you will give up and not git involved dont belive me go do something aboratious
Reply:Read the CG's about ranting. Just because you put a question mark at the end of something, it doesn't make it a question.
Reply:Clearly the actual question wasn't a serious question. Your issues with the Census bureau are, but I'm sure you didn't expect answers to the comment about pseudoscience. It appears it was purely sarcasm, and not a real question. Answers (yes or no), wouldn't have been beneficial to anyone else... or barely even to you for that matter. I think what you were looking for was a discussion about your view/comments, and discussion isn't permitted on this site. A perfectly reasonable thing to desire, but it's just not allowed on this site. Another forum maybe related to this topic might be a better place for a serious discussion.
How is this a legal copy of Obamas birth certificate?
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO...
There is a lot of information excluded on it!
1) No signature of the person issuing it.
2) His parents birth places are not listed!
3) They list his fathers race as african...Africa is a continent not a race. His race is BLACK. His ethniticity is Kenyan.
4) The Hawiian seal on the document is not raised. It is only stamped. To be a legal certificate it would have to be raised. No vital statistics agency in any state would fail to make it a raised stamp. Use your computers magnifyer to verify this.
5) Towards the middle bottom of the document there is a date stamped when it was supposedly issued. Use your magnifyer and you will see hat the date is backwards. NO office of statistics in this country would make such a mistake. This birth certificate is photo shopped. WHY?
How is this a legal copy of Obamas birth certificate?
Good Question! If counterfeit money can be printed, I think a birth certificate can as well.
Reply:lame brains. Report Abuse
Reply:I'm sure it is. You do you doubt that Obama isn't a American? Oh, I know you must be a rightie. Loves to lie about Obama.
Reply:Yeah it was photoshopped by his BEST FRIEND FOREVER BILL AYERS.
Reply:Because Barak Obama is not a citizen of the United States.
Reply:*yawn*
Is that the best you have?
Reply:actually your wrong Kansas uses a stamp not a raised seal, Colorado uses a stamp on a official "copy' not a stamp it is cheaper than official which has the raised stamp, the signature might have been left on propose Colorado does not include to signature on the "copy" as for his race you have to remember this was over 45 yrs ago things were different, when my child was born they asked and took my word for what i told them, obamas father might have not understood all the questions completely or it was in Vogue to use the word African instead of black through the years African Americans have gone from "colored" to "*****" to the derogatory form of ***** to black to African to African American
Reply:It's from a computer database, since it's easier these days for state governments to manage their archived data digitally instead of having a 50 year old sheet of paper for every person ever born there in some green metal filing cabinet in some basement. Now they're all stored on a CD-Rom in some government computer database room. And if you want a copy, all you have to do is click a mouse, instead of sending Gladys the secretary down to the basement with a flashlight and a flyswatter to kill spiders. The print is clean, the seals are watermarks, the data is reformatted by computer instead of written by hand or printed by a typewritter like they did back in the 50s. It's still an official state document, it just isn't yellow or covered in mold like an old fashioned 50 year old paper copy might be.
Reply:The birth certificate isn't really the issue, it's the fact that he is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a NATURAL-born citizen if the child was not born to TWO U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If ONLY ONE parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least FIVE of which had to be AFTER the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
There is a lot of information excluded on it!
1) No signature of the person issuing it.
2) His parents birth places are not listed!
3) They list his fathers race as african...Africa is a continent not a race. His race is BLACK. His ethniticity is Kenyan.
4) The Hawiian seal on the document is not raised. It is only stamped. To be a legal certificate it would have to be raised. No vital statistics agency in any state would fail to make it a raised stamp. Use your computers magnifyer to verify this.
5) Towards the middle bottom of the document there is a date stamped when it was supposedly issued. Use your magnifyer and you will see hat the date is backwards. NO office of statistics in this country would make such a mistake. This birth certificate is photo shopped. WHY?
How is this a legal copy of Obamas birth certificate?
Good Question! If counterfeit money can be printed, I think a birth certificate can as well.
Reply:lame brains. Report Abuse
Reply:I'm sure it is. You do you doubt that Obama isn't a American? Oh, I know you must be a rightie. Loves to lie about Obama.
Reply:Yeah it was photoshopped by his BEST FRIEND FOREVER BILL AYERS.
Reply:Because Barak Obama is not a citizen of the United States.
Reply:*yawn*
Is that the best you have?
Reply:actually your wrong Kansas uses a stamp not a raised seal, Colorado uses a stamp on a official "copy' not a stamp it is cheaper than official which has the raised stamp, the signature might have been left on propose Colorado does not include to signature on the "copy" as for his race you have to remember this was over 45 yrs ago things were different, when my child was born they asked and took my word for what i told them, obamas father might have not understood all the questions completely or it was in Vogue to use the word African instead of black through the years African Americans have gone from "colored" to "*****" to the derogatory form of ***** to black to African to African American
Reply:It's from a computer database, since it's easier these days for state governments to manage their archived data digitally instead of having a 50 year old sheet of paper for every person ever born there in some green metal filing cabinet in some basement. Now they're all stored on a CD-Rom in some government computer database room. And if you want a copy, all you have to do is click a mouse, instead of sending Gladys the secretary down to the basement with a flashlight and a flyswatter to kill spiders. The print is clean, the seals are watermarks, the data is reformatted by computer instead of written by hand or printed by a typewritter like they did back in the 50s. It's still an official state document, it just isn't yellow or covered in mold like an old fashioned 50 year old paper copy might be.
Reply:The birth certificate isn't really the issue, it's the fact that he is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a NATURAL-born citizen if the child was not born to TWO U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If ONLY ONE parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least FIVE of which had to be AFTER the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
Sexy or not?
Guys, is it really important with you if a girl is sexy or not? is this really a requirement? I was just wondering why some guys are asking about vital statistics when your chatting with them.
Sexy or not?
Nah ,warm body and an IQ equal to but not exceeding room temperature is good enough for me :))
Reply:sexy is important...especially is lasting relationships...and if sex (intimacy) itself is important to you
Reply:all woman are sexy in their own way.statistics do not tell you **** about who they really are.
Reply:They are horney and want an easy score and then they are on to the next one when they tire of the present girl. Dressing sexy is not necessary. Some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen were not dressed to be sexy at the time they impressed me as being beautiful!
Reply:No I think it is a high school early college thing. I find it hard to Chat with someone that is hot in words on my monitor. To read that they are sexy in text.
Do you not think that is a bit shallow of a person. This shallow person in real life might have problems with the art of tying their shoes. Or again you could be so shallow that you come up with a cool ideal in your head, without thinking the process through. Check Niel out.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
I think you do not have to invent a black and white camera. Just get the black and white film or if digital in your photo shop program just remove the color. No wonder his avatar in a bad mood.
Someone that is interesting holds a conversation well is a bigger turn on than the shallow thought of hey what are your vitals.... or Are you Hot?
Yes I was but I turned on the A/C to cool off. LOL
Good Luck and Have Fun.
Reply:Sexy is always a requirement. That's why children make fun of other kids who are repulsive.
Reply:Dear....If i would chat with you i will ask about ur sexyness if still didn't saw you.If i have seen you i will say that u are.
Absolutely u r sexy and boys wanted the same.
Boys ask this because they don't want to waste their time behind those girl who would not be their taste
Reply:well the guys that you chat with are looking for cam sex and stuff like that... if he doesnt ask about those stuff then you can consider him a gd person to be removed from the jerk list :)
Reply:only for some guy,well just say most of it,,
I guess it depend what is your reason go chat for maybe looking for love partner or only just killing time
Reply:of course not
the big thing is what is your attitude
how u act
and personality
appearance is one factor but not as important
just be yourself there is someone for you
Reply:no, we just like sexual fantasies, even when we're chatting, so you can "play up" your stats when your chatting (say 'i won't tell you what size, but I have large breasts'). that type of thing...
Reply:sexy is good... makes you want to have sex... :D
Reply:It is important that you are attractive to your mate. Everyone has different tastes so no matter what you look like, someone is attracted to you.
Guys are asking for your vital statistics so that they can fantasize about how you look. Next time you get that question, ask them if they are typing with one hand.
Reply:because they are trying to form a mental picture of you
Reply:a girl should be sexy!
a boy should be handsome!
this is a requirement.
then only both the sexy girl and the handsome boy will be attracted towards each other
Reply:its there way to find out personal things about your mind, body, feelings and so on. take it as a compliment that they are showing interest in you for the future and they may be thinking you could be part of it.
Sexy or not?
Nah ,warm body and an IQ equal to but not exceeding room temperature is good enough for me :))
Reply:sexy is important...especially is lasting relationships...and if sex (intimacy) itself is important to you
Reply:all woman are sexy in their own way.statistics do not tell you **** about who they really are.
Reply:They are horney and want an easy score and then they are on to the next one when they tire of the present girl. Dressing sexy is not necessary. Some of the most beautiful women I have ever seen were not dressed to be sexy at the time they impressed me as being beautiful!
Reply:No I think it is a high school early college thing. I find it hard to Chat with someone that is hot in words on my monitor. To read that they are sexy in text.
Do you not think that is a bit shallow of a person. This shallow person in real life might have problems with the art of tying their shoes. Or again you could be so shallow that you come up with a cool ideal in your head, without thinking the process through. Check Niel out.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
I think you do not have to invent a black and white camera. Just get the black and white film or if digital in your photo shop program just remove the color. No wonder his avatar in a bad mood.
Someone that is interesting holds a conversation well is a bigger turn on than the shallow thought of hey what are your vitals.... or Are you Hot?
Yes I was but I turned on the A/C to cool off. LOL
Good Luck and Have Fun.
Reply:Sexy is always a requirement. That's why children make fun of other kids who are repulsive.
Reply:Dear....If i would chat with you i will ask about ur sexyness if still didn't saw you.If i have seen you i will say that u are.
Absolutely u r sexy and boys wanted the same.
Boys ask this because they don't want to waste their time behind those girl who would not be their taste
Reply:well the guys that you chat with are looking for cam sex and stuff like that... if he doesnt ask about those stuff then you can consider him a gd person to be removed from the jerk list :)
Reply:only for some guy,well just say most of it,,
I guess it depend what is your reason go chat for maybe looking for love partner or only just killing time
Reply:of course not
the big thing is what is your attitude
how u act
and personality
appearance is one factor but not as important
just be yourself there is someone for you
Reply:no, we just like sexual fantasies, even when we're chatting, so you can "play up" your stats when your chatting (say 'i won't tell you what size, but I have large breasts'). that type of thing...
Reply:sexy is good... makes you want to have sex... :D
Reply:It is important that you are attractive to your mate. Everyone has different tastes so no matter what you look like, someone is attracted to you.
Guys are asking for your vital statistics so that they can fantasize about how you look. Next time you get that question, ask them if they are typing with one hand.
Reply:because they are trying to form a mental picture of you
Reply:a girl should be sexy!
a boy should be handsome!
this is a requirement.
then only both the sexy girl and the handsome boy will be attracted towards each other
Reply:its there way to find out personal things about your mind, body, feelings and so on. take it as a compliment that they are showing interest in you for the future and they may be thinking you could be part of it.
Birth Certificate-Cheap, fast, and in person?
I asked a question about birth certificates before. But I need some clarification...
I need my birth certificate ASAP for a passport. And read or heard that it is cheaper if you go get it in person, right?
And where should I go, hospital? I heard vital statistics, how many are there in a state? One for each county? I live in Somerville, NJ. I know there is a site online that ships birth certs but I am trying to avoid that.
And when I go to this vital statistics place, what do I need as proofs for them? My drivers license, anything else? I know my SS# but have no card.
Any quick help would be great, the clock is ticking for me...
Birth Certificate-Cheap, fast, and in person?
Check the Bureau of Vital Statistics in the CAPITAL of whatever State you were born in. They even have web sites complete with phone numbers.
Reply:I'm not sure about New Jersey, but here in Louisiana you can get a verified copy of your birth certificate through the Department of Health and Hospitals. If New Jersey has an equivalent, I would check there. I didn't have to go to Baton Rouge, but you might have to go to Trenton.
Reply:In Illinois, I just went to my local county courthouse and was able to get a copy.
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I need my birth certificate ASAP for a passport. And read or heard that it is cheaper if you go get it in person, right?
And where should I go, hospital? I heard vital statistics, how many are there in a state? One for each county? I live in Somerville, NJ. I know there is a site online that ships birth certs but I am trying to avoid that.
And when I go to this vital statistics place, what do I need as proofs for them? My drivers license, anything else? I know my SS# but have no card.
Any quick help would be great, the clock is ticking for me...
Birth Certificate-Cheap, fast, and in person?
Check the Bureau of Vital Statistics in the CAPITAL of whatever State you were born in. They even have web sites complete with phone numbers.
Reply:I'm not sure about New Jersey, but here in Louisiana you can get a verified copy of your birth certificate through the Department of Health and Hospitals. If New Jersey has an equivalent, I would check there. I didn't have to go to Baton Rouge, but you might have to go to Trenton.
Reply:In Illinois, I just went to my local county courthouse and was able to get a copy.
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Wot do i wear???
I m 15 years old n i m ded thin.My vital statistics r -32-24-33 so which colour %26amp; cloth's saree would look gd on me???( i hv 2 wear it on my farewell,can't help it!!!)
N also tell me in general wot kind of dresses would suit me??
Wot do i wear???
firstly, regardless of what clothes you wear, if you think you look good then you look fabulous.
secondly, the colour of your skin would actually determine the best colour clothing for you.
thirdly, for a small framed person like yourself i think you will look more fuller (if that is what you want to achieve) with clothes that has a lot of designs and hems. you can pull it off.
but main thing dear, you will look good if you think u look good and show yourself as a confident and strong woman
Reply:Designer sarees are the perfect wear for parties. Bt before u wear it, get a padded bra n then wear it. This wont show u skinny.
A thin,nt - so - transparent party saree + 1 heavy set jewellary cud b gr8.
Reply:hmm.... base on your vital statistics you are not that thin from what I imagine. Anything you have will look best in you.
Reply:wear a white pear of cloths they make you look less skini
Reply:try black or white
N also tell me in general wot kind of dresses would suit me??
Wot do i wear???
firstly, regardless of what clothes you wear, if you think you look good then you look fabulous.
secondly, the colour of your skin would actually determine the best colour clothing for you.
thirdly, for a small framed person like yourself i think you will look more fuller (if that is what you want to achieve) with clothes that has a lot of designs and hems. you can pull it off.
but main thing dear, you will look good if you think u look good and show yourself as a confident and strong woman
Reply:Designer sarees are the perfect wear for parties. Bt before u wear it, get a padded bra n then wear it. This wont show u skinny.
A thin,nt - so - transparent party saree + 1 heavy set jewellary cud b gr8.
Reply:hmm.... base on your vital statistics you are not that thin from what I imagine. Anything you have will look best in you.
Reply:wear a white pear of cloths they make you look less skini
Reply:try black or white
Do you think Rico will fall to me?
weight: 198 lbs.
vital statistics: 45" 45" 40"
how much do i need to loose to get his attention?
Do you think Rico will fall to me?
You sound pretty good to me,it would help if you had a pic,hmmm you dont need to lose weight because if you did that it owuld make you look malnourished.lol
Reply:You are very fat, why don't you start exercising.
Reply:you're rico aren't you?
Reply:I think you should gain about 75 pounds.
Reply:Poor Rico.
He needs a new woman.
vital statistics: 45" 45" 40"
how much do i need to loose to get his attention?
Do you think Rico will fall to me?
You sound pretty good to me,it would help if you had a pic,hmmm you dont need to lose weight because if you did that it owuld make you look malnourished.lol
Reply:You are very fat, why don't you start exercising.
Reply:you're rico aren't you?
Reply:I think you should gain about 75 pounds.
Reply:Poor Rico.
He needs a new woman.
ORION(constellation)?
Hello. Can you tell me about orion(constellation) or a website i can go to that will give me information on it. i need quite a lot of detail on it and i think its really hard to find. plz help
need the followong things:
-composition of atmosphere and planet mass
-presense of moons and/or rings
-vital statistics such as length of year and day, axial tilt and size
-when it was discoverd-
-visitation by spacecraft from earth
-distance from sun
ORION(constellation)?
The information you are looking for relates to planets. Orion is a constellation, so none of these points you've listed is relevant.
You can find a lot on Orion by going to this Wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(cons...
Reply:-composition of atmosphere and planet mass
-presense of moons and/or rings
-vital statistics such as length of year and day, axial tilt and size
-when it was discoverd-
-visitation by spacecraft from earth
It has none of these things...it's a constellation, not a planet and it's approximately 1,500 light years away.
Go here for info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(cons...
Reply:Download "Google Earth" to your PC, click on one of the buttons at the top to view "Sky", type in the word "Orion" in the box at the left hand side, and press Return. From there you can zoom in on the individual stars, Betelgeuse, Belatrix, Rigel, Saiph, Alnitak, Alnilam, Mintaka, etc., or even the Crab Nebula. The constellation (group of stars, "stella") just defines a particular area of sky as viewed from Earth, so even it something a lot closer moves in front of it, it is said to be in the constellation of Orion.
Reply:http://www.stellarium.org/
This is great freeware that you can use to get information about nearly everything in the sky.
But first I think you need to learn the difference between a planet and a constellation. -
Reply:Those questions refer to a planet. Orion is a constellation, a group of stars that form a unique shape in the sky.
need the followong things:
-composition of atmosphere and planet mass
-presense of moons and/or rings
-vital statistics such as length of year and day, axial tilt and size
-when it was discoverd-
-visitation by spacecraft from earth
-distance from sun
ORION(constellation)?
The information you are looking for relates to planets. Orion is a constellation, so none of these points you've listed is relevant.
You can find a lot on Orion by going to this Wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(cons...
Reply:-composition of atmosphere and planet mass
-presense of moons and/or rings
-vital statistics such as length of year and day, axial tilt and size
-when it was discoverd-
-visitation by spacecraft from earth
It has none of these things...it's a constellation, not a planet and it's approximately 1,500 light years away.
Go here for info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(cons...
Reply:Download "Google Earth" to your PC, click on one of the buttons at the top to view "Sky", type in the word "Orion" in the box at the left hand side, and press Return. From there you can zoom in on the individual stars, Betelgeuse, Belatrix, Rigel, Saiph, Alnitak, Alnilam, Mintaka, etc., or even the Crab Nebula. The constellation (group of stars, "stella") just defines a particular area of sky as viewed from Earth, so even it something a lot closer moves in front of it, it is said to be in the constellation of Orion.
Reply:http://www.stellarium.org/
This is great freeware that you can use to get information about nearly everything in the sky.
But first I think you need to learn the difference between a planet and a constellation. -
Reply:Those questions refer to a planet. Orion is a constellation, a group of stars that form a unique shape in the sky.
Birth certificate?
hello,
i was recently looking at my birth certificate and came across, in bold letters at the bottom, that it said the birth certificate was not a real document. now i understand that but what i don't understand is that they said the real document could be found at the vital statistics office at_________________ where the real document can be obtained. i don't understand why they left that part out. all of the rest of te certificate was filled in, but why didn't they fill in the blank where the legal document could be found? or did they just forget?
Birth certificate?
all documents are different depenting on the state and evern county == i would say they just forgot to fill in the blank!!!
Reply:the real certificate belong to the government everybody only gets a photocopy maybe its different in your state
Reply:If you go online to the county/town where you were born, there should be an address for the County Clerk's Office, which keeps the records for registering births, marriages, deaths, etc. Your birth certificate should have a pressed seal on it with the town/county name.
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i was recently looking at my birth certificate and came across, in bold letters at the bottom, that it said the birth certificate was not a real document. now i understand that but what i don't understand is that they said the real document could be found at the vital statistics office at_________________ where the real document can be obtained. i don't understand why they left that part out. all of the rest of te certificate was filled in, but why didn't they fill in the blank where the legal document could be found? or did they just forget?
Birth certificate?
all documents are different depenting on the state and evern county == i would say they just forgot to fill in the blank!!!
Reply:the real certificate belong to the government everybody only gets a photocopy maybe its different in your state
Reply:If you go online to the county/town where you were born, there should be an address for the County Clerk's Office, which keeps the records for registering births, marriages, deaths, etc. Your birth certificate should have a pressed seal on it with the town/county name.
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I need a girl friend?
i need a girl friend having vital statistics 36' 22' 36' send your photograph to scan
I need a girl friend?
Ok um. Ur wierd. Thnks 4 the points tho
Reply:are you serious???? this Y!A not an on line dating service. And do you seriously think you'll get pictures to scan? get over yourself! If you really need those specifications in a women why don't you try a dating service or your nearest bar.
Reply:no you dont NEED a girlfriend you may WANT a girlfriend but you will never NEED one.
Reply:u ain't finna get one if your dat piky
Reply:You should try iamadesperatedork.com
I need a girl friend?
Ok um. Ur wierd. Thnks 4 the points tho
Reply:are you serious???? this Y!A not an on line dating service. And do you seriously think you'll get pictures to scan? get over yourself! If you really need those specifications in a women why don't you try a dating service or your nearest bar.
Reply:no you dont NEED a girlfriend you may WANT a girlfriend but you will never NEED one.
Reply:u ain't finna get one if your dat piky
Reply:You should try iamadesperatedork.com
I need a girl friend?
i need a girl friend having vital statistics 36' 22' 36' send your photograph to scan
I need a girl friend?
You should try iamadesperatedork.com
Reply:no you dont NEED a girlfriend you may WANT a girlfriend but you will never NEED one.
Reply:are you serious???? this Y!A not an on line dating service. And do you seriously think you'll get pictures to scan? get over yourself! If you really need those specifications in a women why don't you try a dating service or your nearest bar.
Reply:u ain't finna get one if your dat piky
Reply:Ok um. Ur wierd. Thnks 4 the points tho
I need a girl friend?
You should try iamadesperatedork.com
Reply:no you dont NEED a girlfriend you may WANT a girlfriend but you will never NEED one.
Reply:are you serious???? this Y!A not an on line dating service. And do you seriously think you'll get pictures to scan? get over yourself! If you really need those specifications in a women why don't you try a dating service or your nearest bar.
Reply:u ain't finna get one if your dat piky
Reply:Ok um. Ur wierd. Thnks 4 the points tho
Am I that fat....? help!!!?
my vital statistics is 34(capB) 29 37 and I don't feel comfortable specially when I'm with my skinny friends. I think I'm fat. I'm 19 years old. I need some help...anyone?
thanks in advance
Am I that fat....? help!!!?
Think about it. - are you really that fat?
If you do feel fat and want to do something about it dont do it alone tell someone and then you will have plenty of support
Reply:What you think...often becomes what you are.
What I mean is...start thinking your the BOMB when your around your skinny friends.
You don't feel comfortable because your getting a dose of "the insecurities" because of constantly comparing yourself with others.
You are an original model...some similar...but none like you.
Do what makes you healthy...and feel good about yourself.
You sound beautiful to me.
There.
Reply:I came across this great product for weight loss and it was excellent for me. Together with a good diet and exercise I am finally happy with my body and the way I look. You should check this product at
http://www.best-free-thin-diet.us , they have a free trial and you only pay $6.95 shipping and handling. A must!
Reply:exercise daily, have a good diet, reduce junk foods and diary items
Reply:Then you should go to the gym
thanks in advance
Am I that fat....? help!!!?
Think about it. - are you really that fat?
If you do feel fat and want to do something about it dont do it alone tell someone and then you will have plenty of support
Reply:What you think...often becomes what you are.
What I mean is...start thinking your the BOMB when your around your skinny friends.
You don't feel comfortable because your getting a dose of "the insecurities" because of constantly comparing yourself with others.
You are an original model...some similar...but none like you.
Do what makes you healthy...and feel good about yourself.
You sound beautiful to me.
There.
Reply:I came across this great product for weight loss and it was excellent for me. Together with a good diet and exercise I am finally happy with my body and the way I look. You should check this product at
http://www.best-free-thin-diet.us , they have a free trial and you only pay $6.95 shipping and handling. A must!
Reply:exercise daily, have a good diet, reduce junk foods and diary items
Reply:Then you should go to the gym
I'm having a brain fart!!?
Ok, so im trying to find the records of a death of a friend that i lost contact w/ . I dont wanna use ancestry .com if i dont have too. Can someone give me a website for vital statistics in Ohio?
I'm having a brain fart!!?
I recently lost a friend in Ohio...cancer. If all else fails do a google search with their name in quotations (try every variation of the name) and OHIO. See what comes up. You'll probably find an obituary, especially if you put a month or year of death. Sorry for your loss.
Reply:contact local newspapers for your area or their hometown, most of the time they have it in archives
Reply:Look up "social security death index" or SSDI.
In central Ohio try obituaries at dispatch.com if the detah was recent.
Reply:If an obituary is filed in the paper, they might keep it online for a period of a year, that's a good place to start.
Reply:http://www.vitalchek.com/region_overview...
Reply:A brain fart??????????
Reply:You usually have to pay for those. call that cities county building and ask for death records.
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I'm having a brain fart!!?
I recently lost a friend in Ohio...cancer. If all else fails do a google search with their name in quotations (try every variation of the name) and OHIO. See what comes up. You'll probably find an obituary, especially if you put a month or year of death. Sorry for your loss.
Reply:contact local newspapers for your area or their hometown, most of the time they have it in archives
Reply:Look up "social security death index" or SSDI.
In central Ohio try obituaries at dispatch.com if the detah was recent.
Reply:If an obituary is filed in the paper, they might keep it online for a period of a year, that's a good place to start.
Reply:http://www.vitalchek.com/region_overview...
Reply:A brain fart??????????
Reply:You usually have to pay for those. call that cities county building and ask for death records.
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Ola! Para con ustedes, guapo ba si Freddie Prinze Jr.? Pavor replica.?
Is Freddie Prinze Jr. muscular? What's his vital statistics?
Ola! Para con ustedes, guapo ba si Freddie Prinze Jr.? Pavor replica.?
Si! Guapo ele talaga!
Ola! Para con ustedes, guapo ba si Freddie Prinze Jr.? Pavor replica.?
Si! Guapo ele talaga!
If you could create your own new god, please describe it?
i've been deeply moved by my experience of browsing
http://www.godchecker.com/
Godchecker.com - Your Guide To The Gods. Mythology with a twist!
It is a project to profile the gods of the human species. A dossier is included, along with a little section called 'vital statistics', where you can compare each god objectively.
I am amazed. it gives me such a strong feeling of understanding humans' belief in supernatural beings. having them all there together on one site, with descriptions that err on the side of the comical and are refreshingly devoid of over enthusiastic reverence (that so often seems hollow) ... i have such a feeling of knowing, for sure, that there is no one true god. there are thousands, as it says.
and don't we humans have fantastic imaginations! the demons are way better than in any pc game!
also, note the common theme of gods being immortal and/or allowing us to be immortal. i think this is the basis of religious belief.
If you could create your own new god, please describe it?
It would be Fred, the God of atheism. He would be the first God whose followers don't believe in him.
Reply:There is one true God
Reply:nothing I create could be better than Jesus Christ so why try?
Reply:Excellent site. I have to bookmark it. (Yes, it's possible even to forget such an easy URL.)
My god would be Quistis, goddess of mythology, because mythology just isn't self-aware these days.
Reply:If I could create Him, then I would be G-d; not Him!
G-d alone creates. All else duplicates, copies or imitates.
Not even satan can create life. He can only kill, steal %26amp; destroy.
Reply:Thanks for the chance, but I really can't top the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
And thanks for the reference.
One suggestion to resolve all this is that if there is a God, He has been revealing Himself to His people since the start, He just does so in ways that a particular people can best understand. Is that sacrilege? I dunno. It seems to have a ring of truth to it, simply considering how He revealed himself at different times within the Jewish and Christian scriptures.
Reply:It would be a benign small creature sent by God to help me find bargains, do household chores, cook delicious food, pass under all green lights, etc etc. Looks like a cross between Martha Stewart and a bichon frise. Also small enough to carry in my shirt pocket.
Reply:while this question poses an interesting idea, my God is the 1 true God, and He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, the God of the Universe... I AM... the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob.... father Jesus holy spirit God...
yeah praise Him who sits on the throne and praise to the lamb who was slain for us
Reply:"Thou shalt not have no other Gods before me (HIM)."
Reply:pocket sized , available upon request, more like a genie in the bottle with never ending wishes granted and only available to myself and no maintenance whatsoever (like praying going to church etc..)
http://www.godchecker.com/
Godchecker.com - Your Guide To The Gods. Mythology with a twist!
It is a project to profile the gods of the human species. A dossier is included, along with a little section called 'vital statistics', where you can compare each god objectively.
I am amazed. it gives me such a strong feeling of understanding humans' belief in supernatural beings. having them all there together on one site, with descriptions that err on the side of the comical and are refreshingly devoid of over enthusiastic reverence (that so often seems hollow) ... i have such a feeling of knowing, for sure, that there is no one true god. there are thousands, as it says.
and don't we humans have fantastic imaginations! the demons are way better than in any pc game!
also, note the common theme of gods being immortal and/or allowing us to be immortal. i think this is the basis of religious belief.
If you could create your own new god, please describe it?
It would be Fred, the God of atheism. He would be the first God whose followers don't believe in him.
Reply:There is one true God
Reply:nothing I create could be better than Jesus Christ so why try?
Reply:Excellent site. I have to bookmark it. (Yes, it's possible even to forget such an easy URL.)
My god would be Quistis, goddess of mythology, because mythology just isn't self-aware these days.
Reply:If I could create Him, then I would be G-d; not Him!
G-d alone creates. All else duplicates, copies or imitates.
Not even satan can create life. He can only kill, steal %26amp; destroy.
Reply:Thanks for the chance, but I really can't top the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
And thanks for the reference.
One suggestion to resolve all this is that if there is a God, He has been revealing Himself to His people since the start, He just does so in ways that a particular people can best understand. Is that sacrilege? I dunno. It seems to have a ring of truth to it, simply considering how He revealed himself at different times within the Jewish and Christian scriptures.
Reply:It would be a benign small creature sent by God to help me find bargains, do household chores, cook delicious food, pass under all green lights, etc etc. Looks like a cross between Martha Stewart and a bichon frise. Also small enough to carry in my shirt pocket.
Reply:while this question poses an interesting idea, my God is the 1 true God, and He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, the God of the Universe... I AM... the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob.... father Jesus holy spirit God...
yeah praise Him who sits on the throne and praise to the lamb who was slain for us
Reply:"Thou shalt not have no other Gods before me (HIM)."
Reply:pocket sized , available upon request, more like a genie in the bottle with never ending wishes granted and only available to myself and no maintenance whatsoever (like praying going to church etc..)
With technology taking over the world, is it still possible to enjoy the "simple" things in life?
Technology is a good thing in many ways...it can help with education, it's vital for a lot of health care procedures, it creates jobs, etc.
However, it can be a bad thing in many ways as well. For example, look at the statistics of obesity in children today - they'd rather stay in and play video games, watch TV or be on the computer instead of being outside, playing and discovering in the "real world". Relationships are being hurt because of technology addiction (video game addiction, computer addiction, etc).
With all this technology, are we forgetting about real life?
What are your thoughts?
With technology taking over the world, is it still possible to enjoy the "simple" things in life?
Yes, I believe people are bored if they don't have any of this to distract themselves, we have forgotten about having fun, using our own creativity to amuse ourselves, no real stimulation is happening, with people sitting around, we arent keeping fit the way we use to, so of course the brain isn't releasing endorphins that make you feel happy.
with email, people choose to keep in contact through a computer rather than using a phone or going to visit someone. we don't have the conversations that we use to cause we are so busy sitting behind a computer distracted and as a result relationships suffer as you say, I've seen people enraged if their favourite program hasn't recordered, like it is the end of the world. people having accidents to get home in time to watch a program, people swearing if their game mulfunctions, subliminal information from the tv doesn't help either in the communication process. so in regards to the simple life things have been so much more complicated through competition with these things, life becomes the storylines on tv, movies etc, rather than stories from real life events.
It is possible to enjoy the simple things in life if we remember what part in life technology plays, it is not significant, we have made a choice to be entertained by these mediums, rather than enjoying what is outside our doorsteps, I think it is a contributing factor to depression in that people are not getting enough sunlight to there eyes and not socialising enough with others.
Reply:Thanks for giving me a best answer, I found this question very interesting and thought provoking, good question. Report Abuse
Reply:the increased tech--tb, video games, unlimited "ear" music, all do figure into obesity. As importnt is that lack of taskd, meaningful contribution to famly/community (team sports can be just as mind dulling if not obesity forming) I believe also leads to depression in adolexcents. the isolation, lack of physical activity (those endorphons just do not leap up)And lack of reality associated with the tech activities increase searation of person from culture, emotions, and can stimulate anger/rage based on the false premises presented by games/music etc.
Reply:It's definitely possible to teach kids about the simple things in life. Plus it's a fantastic opportunity for parents to spend quality time with their children and teach them at the same time. For example taking kids on a nature walk. You can both learn about the plants, insects and animals that you see. Walks along the beach, especially where there are rocks with tide pools. Typically, one can find all sorts of sea life if you're willing to take the time to look. I feel that parents should really make an effort when children are very young to makke time to explore the natural wonders of our earth. It helps to build strong family bonds as well as an appreciation and respect for those things that are right there in front of us.
Reply:No not unless your Grizzle, I'm so Grizzle I eat raw deer for dinner
Reply:Ok that is a fair enough question. But do you realize how much "land" we have left to do things in without being charged an arm and a leg for . Lets be real, simple is good and probably will be limited to basket weaving , drawing and painting much like some of the social activities provided by the youth groups of today.
Reply:It's not the technology that's making kids fat.It's complacent parents
Reply:This is a fascinating question, one that I think about quite often. You seem to acknowledge that technological progress is inevitable, and even though you begin by comparing the good/ bad aspects of said progress, your main question is whether we can still act HUMAN with the proliferation of such dehumanizing forces.
My guess is partly yes, partly no.
You're spot on about the obesity statistics; the figure will continue to rise with even more entertainment products coming out year after year. (Unless, ironically, technology provides an answer through the form of some magical "obesity reduction" pill.)
Relationships can suffer, certainly. I feel like technology also makes us jaded. Men pull up images of photoshop-enhanced pornography and then aren't inspired by the women they meet in real life. We watch explosive action movies on our high definition plasma TVs with surround sound and then yawn as we look at our own relatively unexciting lives.
However, I feel like certain deep human characteristics will not change so quickly. Our appreciation for natural beauty, for instance. Our desire to interact with REAL people instead of sketchy photographs or online gamers from across the world. And ultimately, technology gives us more time to explore these worthwhile pursuits. Instead of plowing the fields for 15 hours a day, we work for eight, have fun with technology for, say, 3, and then explore the "real world" with the remainder. It's still a net gain over what he had before, unless you consider plowing to be part of "exploring the real world."
It will be interesting to see where things are in 20 years, but I certainly don't anticipate any significant backlash from anti-technology groups. The source is a relevant article written by Theodore Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber. What the man did was despicable, but this manifesto that he had published in several newspapers across the country is actually fascinating reading (even though I don't agree with a lot of things he says). Anyhow, good luck trying to keep the "simple" things alive and well.
Reply:As far as your stance about obese children, I would have to say that is more of a parenting problem. Now I am by no means saying that the parents of the world are doing a bad job, by no means at all. I just remember my parents giving me limits on when I could watch TV or play my (original) Nintendo. My mother would say "It is a right, not a babysitter." I would have to say that in order to instill in the children that playin outside is just as fun, that using their imagination can be as stimulating as pixelated adventures, that they need to be taught that starting at an early age.
But on the other part of your question, the only way people are going to be able to just relax in nature and the "simple" things in life, they have to force themselves out of their normal routines, go for a hike, walk that 2 blocks to the coffee stand instead of driving... Taking "time" out of our busy days just to let life soak in.
Reply:Of course. I have several friends who, by choice, don't have a cell phone, TV, or computer in their home. They'd rather spend the time with their family and friends doing real, not virtual, things.
Reply:Yes, it is possible to enjoy the simple things. Many people are ignoring the simple things.
Reply:Entertainment is very expensive nowadays..and I think electronics for entertainment is a reasonably cheap way to cope with that. However, there is a definite price to pay in overindulgence. Kids that can't pay attention, families not spending time together, and a general sense of laziness. I guess that's why they all come with an off switch.
However, it can be a bad thing in many ways as well. For example, look at the statistics of obesity in children today - they'd rather stay in and play video games, watch TV or be on the computer instead of being outside, playing and discovering in the "real world". Relationships are being hurt because of technology addiction (video game addiction, computer addiction, etc).
With all this technology, are we forgetting about real life?
What are your thoughts?
With technology taking over the world, is it still possible to enjoy the "simple" things in life?
Yes, I believe people are bored if they don't have any of this to distract themselves, we have forgotten about having fun, using our own creativity to amuse ourselves, no real stimulation is happening, with people sitting around, we arent keeping fit the way we use to, so of course the brain isn't releasing endorphins that make you feel happy.
with email, people choose to keep in contact through a computer rather than using a phone or going to visit someone. we don't have the conversations that we use to cause we are so busy sitting behind a computer distracted and as a result relationships suffer as you say, I've seen people enraged if their favourite program hasn't recordered, like it is the end of the world. people having accidents to get home in time to watch a program, people swearing if their game mulfunctions, subliminal information from the tv doesn't help either in the communication process. so in regards to the simple life things have been so much more complicated through competition with these things, life becomes the storylines on tv, movies etc, rather than stories from real life events.
It is possible to enjoy the simple things in life if we remember what part in life technology plays, it is not significant, we have made a choice to be entertained by these mediums, rather than enjoying what is outside our doorsteps, I think it is a contributing factor to depression in that people are not getting enough sunlight to there eyes and not socialising enough with others.
Reply:Thanks for giving me a best answer, I found this question very interesting and thought provoking, good question. Report Abuse
Reply:the increased tech--tb, video games, unlimited "ear" music, all do figure into obesity. As importnt is that lack of taskd, meaningful contribution to famly/community (team sports can be just as mind dulling if not obesity forming) I believe also leads to depression in adolexcents. the isolation, lack of physical activity (those endorphons just do not leap up)And lack of reality associated with the tech activities increase searation of person from culture, emotions, and can stimulate anger/rage based on the false premises presented by games/music etc.
Reply:It's definitely possible to teach kids about the simple things in life. Plus it's a fantastic opportunity for parents to spend quality time with their children and teach them at the same time. For example taking kids on a nature walk. You can both learn about the plants, insects and animals that you see. Walks along the beach, especially where there are rocks with tide pools. Typically, one can find all sorts of sea life if you're willing to take the time to look. I feel that parents should really make an effort when children are very young to makke time to explore the natural wonders of our earth. It helps to build strong family bonds as well as an appreciation and respect for those things that are right there in front of us.
Reply:No not unless your Grizzle, I'm so Grizzle I eat raw deer for dinner
Reply:Ok that is a fair enough question. But do you realize how much "land" we have left to do things in without being charged an arm and a leg for . Lets be real, simple is good and probably will be limited to basket weaving , drawing and painting much like some of the social activities provided by the youth groups of today.
Reply:It's not the technology that's making kids fat.It's complacent parents
Reply:This is a fascinating question, one that I think about quite often. You seem to acknowledge that technological progress is inevitable, and even though you begin by comparing the good/ bad aspects of said progress, your main question is whether we can still act HUMAN with the proliferation of such dehumanizing forces.
My guess is partly yes, partly no.
You're spot on about the obesity statistics; the figure will continue to rise with even more entertainment products coming out year after year. (Unless, ironically, technology provides an answer through the form of some magical "obesity reduction" pill.)
Relationships can suffer, certainly. I feel like technology also makes us jaded. Men pull up images of photoshop-enhanced pornography and then aren't inspired by the women they meet in real life. We watch explosive action movies on our high definition plasma TVs with surround sound and then yawn as we look at our own relatively unexciting lives.
However, I feel like certain deep human characteristics will not change so quickly. Our appreciation for natural beauty, for instance. Our desire to interact with REAL people instead of sketchy photographs or online gamers from across the world. And ultimately, technology gives us more time to explore these worthwhile pursuits. Instead of plowing the fields for 15 hours a day, we work for eight, have fun with technology for, say, 3, and then explore the "real world" with the remainder. It's still a net gain over what he had before, unless you consider plowing to be part of "exploring the real world."
It will be interesting to see where things are in 20 years, but I certainly don't anticipate any significant backlash from anti-technology groups. The source is a relevant article written by Theodore Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber. What the man did was despicable, but this manifesto that he had published in several newspapers across the country is actually fascinating reading (even though I don't agree with a lot of things he says). Anyhow, good luck trying to keep the "simple" things alive and well.
Reply:As far as your stance about obese children, I would have to say that is more of a parenting problem. Now I am by no means saying that the parents of the world are doing a bad job, by no means at all. I just remember my parents giving me limits on when I could watch TV or play my (original) Nintendo. My mother would say "It is a right, not a babysitter." I would have to say that in order to instill in the children that playin outside is just as fun, that using their imagination can be as stimulating as pixelated adventures, that they need to be taught that starting at an early age.
But on the other part of your question, the only way people are going to be able to just relax in nature and the "simple" things in life, they have to force themselves out of their normal routines, go for a hike, walk that 2 blocks to the coffee stand instead of driving... Taking "time" out of our busy days just to let life soak in.
Reply:Of course. I have several friends who, by choice, don't have a cell phone, TV, or computer in their home. They'd rather spend the time with their family and friends doing real, not virtual, things.
Reply:Yes, it is possible to enjoy the simple things. Many people are ignoring the simple things.
Reply:Entertainment is very expensive nowadays..and I think electronics for entertainment is a reasonably cheap way to cope with that. However, there is a definite price to pay in overindulgence. Kids that can't pay attention, families not spending time together, and a general sense of laziness. I guess that's why they all come with an off switch.
Changing my child's last name to mine in Texas?
Does anyone have a clue how that works??? We signed the AOP so my daughter could have her Dad's last name. We were engaged at the time but we are broken up for good now. She is almost 3 months old and I never sent off for her birth certificate. I received her SS card and it has her Dad's last name on it. Can I send off for her birth certificate and a new SS card with my last name on them or what?? The Texas Vital Statistics website is messed up so I can't get any info off there. I really want her to have my last name!!!
Changing my child's last name to mine in Texas?
You will have to go through legal channels to have her named changed. And the father will have to agree to the change. Thank God you have his last name, it will be easier to get support. And you should go for it too. but mind you don't forget to establish legal custody of your child. Or it might come back to bite you later.
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Changing my child's last name to mine in Texas?
You will have to go through legal channels to have her named changed. And the father will have to agree to the change. Thank God you have his last name, it will be easier to get support. And you should go for it too. but mind you don't forget to establish legal custody of your child. Or it might come back to bite you later.
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Abortions....should tax dollars pay for them?
regardless of your religious or moral beliefs, most of us can agree on this statement:
Abortion is an elective surgery for a condition that is (easily) prevented. (rape aside since that only accounts for 1% of all abortions).
If you look at this table you will see that in NY medicaid pays for about 1/3 of abortions. Is it ok for tax dollars to fund abortion?
http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vit...
Abortions....should tax dollars pay for them?
god no
unless it couldn't be avoided (like cancer, broken bones, etc etc) it shouldn't be payed for
things that shouldn't be paid for:
lipo,
aids
abortions
stds
Reply:Well, you have to remember that the alternative is *discussing sex with teenagers*. That means not pretending that sex happens (or should only happen) between married couples, and forgetting the ridiculous notion of abstinence. And christians really, really don't want that.
Reply:Yes... it is a personal decision and a medical procedure that should be afforded equally, rather than based on personal income. Why should the wealthy have this choice and lower income young women be denied the same choice?
Reply:Actually, we already pay for killing human beings. It's called war. Pay for abortions, NO.
Reply:Johovah's witnesses and Christian scientists don't think we should go to doctors at all. They pay tax money too. Should we have to do what they want? I don't think we should be fighting a war, but my tax dollars pay for it. Should they be listening to me?
Reply:Nope.
Reply:If someone can't afford an abortion, they certainly can't afford to have a kid.
Reply:Well, it depends on the situation. The people who often get state funded abortions are often poor to begin with. If you make them have the kid - then the mother goes on welfare and that's far more expensive. Now I think there should be a LIMIT to the number of state funded abortions someone can get. I've heard there is a small percentage of women that have more than one. Personally, I think one should be enough to get the point across. So maybe they should, in the very least, impose a limit. At the same time - then you're in the same boat of having to pay for those kids with those few women who might be using it as a form of birth control.
Reply:Why don't we talk about this when they will pay for my BCPs too?
Reply:I suppose better $600 dollars now than $60000 later...
Reply:Abortion is legal. Denying abortion to the poor is discrimination. There are plenty of cold hearted pragmatic reasons to support it, and plenty of narrow minded reasons to deny it, but as long as its legal denying it to the poor will be a civil rights issue.
If the termination of an unwanted pregnancy is the worst thing that happens with your tax dollars this year then... well... you're definatly not living in the United States of America.
Reply:Yeah, let's STICK IT to the people in need and MAKE them have children.
Because, you know, that's cheaper for society.
Reply:If abortions aren't covered by medicaid then that unwanted baby is going to be born to a welfare mother and our tax dollars will pay for that baby and his mother to be on the dole for years and years to come. Maybe forever.
Which do you think would be cheaper in the long run for us tax payers?
Reply:I have no problem with women having abortions who really need them.
I do not and have never liked the attitude "I don't need birth control, If I get pregnant I'll just get an abortion". I believe birth control should be given out free to anyone who wants it.
I would much rather have tax money used for abortions than used to have to pay for the continued upkeep of the ever growing number of unwanted children.
Reply:No, it is not okay. You're right, it is an elective "surgery". It is terrible for the government to force people to pay taxes toward something that is against their moral beliefs (that includes war). The public should not be required to pay for people's abortions.
Reply:Well, I think if you are on Welfare already, then yes the govt should pay for your abortion. I'd rather pay for the abortion than the unwanted child that will undoubtedly be impregnated or impregnate someone else who will in turn need more welfare.
I think if you are on Welfare, you should have to be on birth control. Like Depo Provera or there's one for men too, but I don't know what it's called.
Reply:no
Reply:Let me tell you a story. My uncle and his wife have 6 kids. They lived on welfare. For YEARS. They kept having kids they couldn't take care of so they could get more WIC, welfare, and housing. At one point, they had a house paid for by the state that was better than what I was living in. And I was working and making great money. Finally, NYS welfare reform started to kick in, and they didn't get all that help anymore. So my mom and I took in 3 of those kids. My question is, abortion or state funded sterilization? Which is worse? If my tax dollars go to pay for an abortion for a woman who is already overwhelmed with kids she can't take care of, so be it. In the long run, it's less of a drain on those of us who do pay taxes in this state. Yes, abortion is elective surgery. But do we need more kids being abused and neglected, put into foster care or crappy state run facilities waiting to never be adopted, being a burden on the tax payer? Which is worse, really? People don't seem to think about the effect of growing up in poverty, being neglected like my cousins were, when they discuss abortion. With all they've been through and will continue to go through, medically and emotionally, with abusive, alcoholic, neglectful parents, poor as hell, and 2 with birth defects, maybe they would have been better off not having been born at all.
Reply:Not only that, but an abortion can written off on your federal income tax as well.
And I'm going to go with no. I don't think it should.
I also have to take issue with this 'unwanted baby' thing that so many people are saying.
First off all (yes, I'm going to say it) it is a baby. And they are more than wanted. In the United States, the waiting period for adopting babies is currently at around 4 years.
Someone wants the baby.
Reply:YES
Reply:No. They shouldn't. It should be just like everything else that is medical.
Reply:If you're truly asking for opinions "regardless of your religious or moral beliefs," why is the question in R%26amp;S?
Reply:How about tax funds supporting combat? As a pacifist, I have no choice in the sense that I cannot not pay my taxes, but I do choose to live in this country rather than another.
I
Reply:No, people should kill with their own money. Or give these babies to adoption.
Reply:Either abortion or welfare.
Reply:I am sickened by the idea, but better that than a lifetime of suffering, crime and pain for the kids born to parents who don't want them, and wouldn't care for them in utero or beyond. I worked with kids with disabilities for many years, there is no reason to trap a soul in a broken body like that. The parents capable of abortion wouldn't have taken care of themselves or that baby in utero and would have made the baby sick or deformed before anyone had the chance to adopt them. Kids with disabilities rarely get adopted, they usually end up living their lives in group homes.
Abortion is an elective surgery for a condition that is (easily) prevented. (rape aside since that only accounts for 1% of all abortions).
If you look at this table you will see that in NY medicaid pays for about 1/3 of abortions. Is it ok for tax dollars to fund abortion?
http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vit...
Abortions....should tax dollars pay for them?
god no
unless it couldn't be avoided (like cancer, broken bones, etc etc) it shouldn't be payed for
things that shouldn't be paid for:
lipo,
aids
abortions
stds
Reply:Well, you have to remember that the alternative is *discussing sex with teenagers*. That means not pretending that sex happens (or should only happen) between married couples, and forgetting the ridiculous notion of abstinence. And christians really, really don't want that.
Reply:Yes... it is a personal decision and a medical procedure that should be afforded equally, rather than based on personal income. Why should the wealthy have this choice and lower income young women be denied the same choice?
Reply:Actually, we already pay for killing human beings. It's called war. Pay for abortions, NO.
Reply:Johovah's witnesses and Christian scientists don't think we should go to doctors at all. They pay tax money too. Should we have to do what they want? I don't think we should be fighting a war, but my tax dollars pay for it. Should they be listening to me?
Reply:Nope.
Reply:If someone can't afford an abortion, they certainly can't afford to have a kid.
Reply:Well, it depends on the situation. The people who often get state funded abortions are often poor to begin with. If you make them have the kid - then the mother goes on welfare and that's far more expensive. Now I think there should be a LIMIT to the number of state funded abortions someone can get. I've heard there is a small percentage of women that have more than one. Personally, I think one should be enough to get the point across. So maybe they should, in the very least, impose a limit. At the same time - then you're in the same boat of having to pay for those kids with those few women who might be using it as a form of birth control.
Reply:Why don't we talk about this when they will pay for my BCPs too?
Reply:I suppose better $600 dollars now than $60000 later...
Reply:Abortion is legal. Denying abortion to the poor is discrimination. There are plenty of cold hearted pragmatic reasons to support it, and plenty of narrow minded reasons to deny it, but as long as its legal denying it to the poor will be a civil rights issue.
If the termination of an unwanted pregnancy is the worst thing that happens with your tax dollars this year then... well... you're definatly not living in the United States of America.
Reply:Yeah, let's STICK IT to the people in need and MAKE them have children.
Because, you know, that's cheaper for society.
Reply:If abortions aren't covered by medicaid then that unwanted baby is going to be born to a welfare mother and our tax dollars will pay for that baby and his mother to be on the dole for years and years to come. Maybe forever.
Which do you think would be cheaper in the long run for us tax payers?
Reply:I have no problem with women having abortions who really need them.
I do not and have never liked the attitude "I don't need birth control, If I get pregnant I'll just get an abortion". I believe birth control should be given out free to anyone who wants it.
I would much rather have tax money used for abortions than used to have to pay for the continued upkeep of the ever growing number of unwanted children.
Reply:No, it is not okay. You're right, it is an elective "surgery". It is terrible for the government to force people to pay taxes toward something that is against their moral beliefs (that includes war). The public should not be required to pay for people's abortions.
Reply:Well, I think if you are on Welfare already, then yes the govt should pay for your abortion. I'd rather pay for the abortion than the unwanted child that will undoubtedly be impregnated or impregnate someone else who will in turn need more welfare.
I think if you are on Welfare, you should have to be on birth control. Like Depo Provera or there's one for men too, but I don't know what it's called.
Reply:no
Reply:Let me tell you a story. My uncle and his wife have 6 kids. They lived on welfare. For YEARS. They kept having kids they couldn't take care of so they could get more WIC, welfare, and housing. At one point, they had a house paid for by the state that was better than what I was living in. And I was working and making great money. Finally, NYS welfare reform started to kick in, and they didn't get all that help anymore. So my mom and I took in 3 of those kids. My question is, abortion or state funded sterilization? Which is worse? If my tax dollars go to pay for an abortion for a woman who is already overwhelmed with kids she can't take care of, so be it. In the long run, it's less of a drain on those of us who do pay taxes in this state. Yes, abortion is elective surgery. But do we need more kids being abused and neglected, put into foster care or crappy state run facilities waiting to never be adopted, being a burden on the tax payer? Which is worse, really? People don't seem to think about the effect of growing up in poverty, being neglected like my cousins were, when they discuss abortion. With all they've been through and will continue to go through, medically and emotionally, with abusive, alcoholic, neglectful parents, poor as hell, and 2 with birth defects, maybe they would have been better off not having been born at all.
Reply:Not only that, but an abortion can written off on your federal income tax as well.
And I'm going to go with no. I don't think it should.
I also have to take issue with this 'unwanted baby' thing that so many people are saying.
First off all (yes, I'm going to say it) it is a baby. And they are more than wanted. In the United States, the waiting period for adopting babies is currently at around 4 years.
Someone wants the baby.
Reply:YES
Reply:No. They shouldn't. It should be just like everything else that is medical.
Reply:If you're truly asking for opinions "regardless of your religious or moral beliefs," why is the question in R%26amp;S?
Reply:How about tax funds supporting combat? As a pacifist, I have no choice in the sense that I cannot not pay my taxes, but I do choose to live in this country rather than another.
I
Reply:No, people should kill with their own money. Or give these babies to adoption.
Reply:Either abortion or welfare.
Reply:I am sickened by the idea, but better that than a lifetime of suffering, crime and pain for the kids born to parents who don't want them, and wouldn't care for them in utero or beyond. I worked with kids with disabilities for many years, there is no reason to trap a soul in a broken body like that. The parents capable of abortion wouldn't have taken care of themselves or that baby in utero and would have made the baby sick or deformed before anyone had the chance to adopt them. Kids with disabilities rarely get adopted, they usually end up living their lives in group homes.
Could you tell me?
what are the ideal vital statistics for a girl?
Could you tell me?
Rule of thumb: Chest %26amp; Hips should measure the same w/the waist being 10" smaller. Example: 34-24-34 or 36-26-36 etc. That said, the "ideal" vital statistics are WHATEVER makes YOU happy!!
Reply:depends on your height and weight.
Reply:In the old days the standard was 36-24-36, but that's not the case anymore. There aren't really any "ideal" vital statistics for a woman, as different men and women have different ideas of what body types they prefer. Some women prefer to have curvier bodies (and many men prefer this also) while some women like to be very thin. (and likewise some men like this) Those are just examples, but the point is that people have varying opinions on what exactly the ideal vital stats for a woman are.
Reply:There is no one ideal, one person might think 35-24-35 is ideal and another person might prefer 38-26-38. HTH : )
Could you tell me?
Rule of thumb: Chest %26amp; Hips should measure the same w/the waist being 10" smaller. Example: 34-24-34 or 36-26-36 etc. That said, the "ideal" vital statistics are WHATEVER makes YOU happy!!
Reply:depends on your height and weight.
Reply:In the old days the standard was 36-24-36, but that's not the case anymore. There aren't really any "ideal" vital statistics for a woman, as different men and women have different ideas of what body types they prefer. Some women prefer to have curvier bodies (and many men prefer this also) while some women like to be very thin. (and likewise some men like this) Those are just examples, but the point is that people have varying opinions on what exactly the ideal vital stats for a woman are.
Reply:There is no one ideal, one person might think 35-24-35 is ideal and another person might prefer 38-26-38. HTH : )
Who is this person?
The Doe Network:
Case File 789UMCO
Notebook
Unidentified White Male
The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery
Skeletal remains
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Vital Statistics
Estimated age: Late 40s to late 50s, but could have been anywhere from 35 to 65.
Approximate Height : 6'0"
Distinguishing Characteristics: Forensic examiners say he suffered some discomfort from degeneration in his back and neck.
Dentals: The man had extensive dental work, including gold work, crowns, bridges and fillings in almost all his teeth, suggesting the man had money.
Clothing: A pair of size 9M Timberland brown-and-black hiking boots.
Possessions: Located was fragments of sleeping cushion, fragments of blue backpack, a yellow-green plastic poncho, parts of a brown sleeping bag, blue hairbrush, two plastic zipper bags, Six $100 bills, one $10 bill, one $5 bill, five $1 bills , green Eureka dome tent, blue-and-black Jansport backpack, green camping pillow, black belt with clinging long underwear fragments, Slumberjack sleeping bag, empty Tylenol bottle, eight multicolored butane lighters, one magnifying glass, one compass, fingernail clippers, bell, spoon, pepper spray, 20 packages of Camel unfiltered cigarettes, Butane stove with two fuel cans, sweetwater water-filtration kit, pocket-sized Battleship game, round red-and-blue canteen, two green plastic military-style canteens, pair of sunglasses, pair of reading glasses, silver Sharper Image binoculars, "4 in 1" Radio Shack game, two drinking cups, aluminum cooking pot, pair of tweezers, package of foam earplugs, package of razor blades, tent repair kit, pair of blue wool socks with duct tape around the toes, roll of duct tape, two National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops.
Other: A pocket-sized, spiral notebook with a green cover with hand-drawn artwork depicting a heart and some figures inside the heart, including what appears to be a cat.
The first page, addressed to "Lib," begins, "I should wait in case my situation here doesn't improve. This may be the end of my journey."
"Would like for you to claim the body . . . services or memoreal. Cremation."
The CBI found the next section illegible, although individual words such as "I" and "thought" and "favor" or "flavor" could be made out.
On another page, more text could be discerned, but the CBI analysts said the writer's point is not clear. That sections reads, "Third choice take them up in a glider (I promise not to get sick on you," before becoming illegible. Some common words - "this," "you" and "not" - are identifiable.
On yet another page, the writing apparently goes, "ar on the . . . would you call her...d have it sent...you because I . . . want it to . . . where." Analysts also interpreted a recovered fragment to read, "be . . . er . . . my . . . s are going."
Possessions
--------------------------------------...
Case History
The victim was located September 8, 2004, by bow hunters in a remote area north of Glenwood Springs. The site is in the drainage of No Name Creek at about 9,700 feet elevation, about 6 miles as the crow flies from Glenwood Springs, but 12 miles by the Transfer Trail out of town.
The skeleton revealed no cause of death and the sheriff's office has been assuming it probably was natural.
The man was found in a tent at a campsite in a wooded, remote location. His trousers had rotted away, but the date of currency found at his campsite indicates he apparently had been there no longer than five years.
The letter leaves open the possibility the man was suicidal, although there is no reason to believe he killed himself. Perhaps he was terminally ill and chose to take his life. The man also could have succumbed to unexpected illness or injury while on an outing in the Flat Tops.
Much about the case is conjecture, including a theory that the man entered the Flat Tops Wilderness at a trailhead on the north and hiked four or five days across elevations of 11,000 feet before setting up his tent on a southern drainage at about 9,700 feet. That theory is supported by two moisture-proof National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops with a route drawn across them to the area where the remains were discovered. But it's possible the man picked up the maps someone else had marked and left behind.
--------------------------------------...
Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Garfield County sheriffs Office
970-945-1377, Ext. 1025
Or
Crime Tips
970-384- 3625
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
NCIC Number:
N/A
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
Glenwood Springs Post Independent
Rocky Mountain News
Who is this person?
Sounds like a friend of mine who has been missing from his girlfriend in Texas. He was experiencing a lot of pain from his neck and back problems. I will foward this information to her. She also knows his family.
Reply:John Doe.
Reply:No one knows for sure.
Case File 789UMCO
Notebook
Unidentified White Male
The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery
Skeletal remains
--------------------------------------...
Vital Statistics
Estimated age: Late 40s to late 50s, but could have been anywhere from 35 to 65.
Approximate Height : 6'0"
Distinguishing Characteristics: Forensic examiners say he suffered some discomfort from degeneration in his back and neck.
Dentals: The man had extensive dental work, including gold work, crowns, bridges and fillings in almost all his teeth, suggesting the man had money.
Clothing: A pair of size 9M Timberland brown-and-black hiking boots.
Possessions: Located was fragments of sleeping cushion, fragments of blue backpack, a yellow-green plastic poncho, parts of a brown sleeping bag, blue hairbrush, two plastic zipper bags, Six $100 bills, one $10 bill, one $5 bill, five $1 bills , green Eureka dome tent, blue-and-black Jansport backpack, green camping pillow, black belt with clinging long underwear fragments, Slumberjack sleeping bag, empty Tylenol bottle, eight multicolored butane lighters, one magnifying glass, one compass, fingernail clippers, bell, spoon, pepper spray, 20 packages of Camel unfiltered cigarettes, Butane stove with two fuel cans, sweetwater water-filtration kit, pocket-sized Battleship game, round red-and-blue canteen, two green plastic military-style canteens, pair of sunglasses, pair of reading glasses, silver Sharper Image binoculars, "4 in 1" Radio Shack game, two drinking cups, aluminum cooking pot, pair of tweezers, package of foam earplugs, package of razor blades, tent repair kit, pair of blue wool socks with duct tape around the toes, roll of duct tape, two National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops.
Other: A pocket-sized, spiral notebook with a green cover with hand-drawn artwork depicting a heart and some figures inside the heart, including what appears to be a cat.
The first page, addressed to "Lib," begins, "I should wait in case my situation here doesn't improve. This may be the end of my journey."
"Would like for you to claim the body . . . services or memoreal. Cremation."
The CBI found the next section illegible, although individual words such as "I" and "thought" and "favor" or "flavor" could be made out.
On another page, more text could be discerned, but the CBI analysts said the writer's point is not clear. That sections reads, "Third choice take them up in a glider (I promise not to get sick on you," before becoming illegible. Some common words - "this," "you" and "not" - are identifiable.
On yet another page, the writing apparently goes, "ar on the . . . would you call her...d have it sent...you because I . . . want it to . . . where." Analysts also interpreted a recovered fragment to read, "be . . . er . . . my . . . s are going."
Possessions
--------------------------------------...
Case History
The victim was located September 8, 2004, by bow hunters in a remote area north of Glenwood Springs. The site is in the drainage of No Name Creek at about 9,700 feet elevation, about 6 miles as the crow flies from Glenwood Springs, but 12 miles by the Transfer Trail out of town.
The skeleton revealed no cause of death and the sheriff's office has been assuming it probably was natural.
The man was found in a tent at a campsite in a wooded, remote location. His trousers had rotted away, but the date of currency found at his campsite indicates he apparently had been there no longer than five years.
The letter leaves open the possibility the man was suicidal, although there is no reason to believe he killed himself. Perhaps he was terminally ill and chose to take his life. The man also could have succumbed to unexpected illness or injury while on an outing in the Flat Tops.
Much about the case is conjecture, including a theory that the man entered the Flat Tops Wilderness at a trailhead on the north and hiked four or five days across elevations of 11,000 feet before setting up his tent on a southern drainage at about 9,700 feet. That theory is supported by two moisture-proof National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops with a route drawn across them to the area where the remains were discovered. But it's possible the man picked up the maps someone else had marked and left behind.
--------------------------------------...
Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Garfield County sheriffs Office
970-945-1377, Ext. 1025
Or
Crime Tips
970-384- 3625
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
NCIC Number:
N/A
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
Glenwood Springs Post Independent
Rocky Mountain News
Who is this person?
Sounds like a friend of mine who has been missing from his girlfriend in Texas. He was experiencing a lot of pain from his neck and back problems. I will foward this information to her. She also knows his family.
Reply:John Doe.
Reply:No one knows for sure.
Need identification any real psychics want to help here?
The Doe Network:
Case File 789UMCO
Notebook
Unidentified White Male
The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery
Skeletal remains
--------------------------------------...
Vital Statistics
Estimated age: Late 40s to late 50s, but could have been anywhere from 35 to 65.
Approximate Height : 6'0"
Distinguishing Characteristics: Forensic examiners say he suffered some discomfort from degeneration in his back and neck.
Dentals: The man had extensive dental work, including gold work, crowns, bridges and fillings in almost all his teeth, suggesting the man had money.
Clothing: A pair of size 9M Timberland brown-and-black hiking boots.
Possessions: Located was fragments of sleeping cushion, fragments of blue backpack, a yellow-green plastic poncho, parts of a brown sleeping bag, blue hairbrush, two plastic zipper bags, Six $100 bills, one $10 bill, one $5 bill, five $1 bills , green Eureka dome tent, blue-and-black Jansport backpack, green camping pillow, black belt with clinging long underwear fragments, Slumberjack sleeping bag, empty Tylenol bottle, eight multicolored butane lighters, one magnifying glass, one compass, fingernail clippers, bell, spoon, pepper spray, 20 packages of Camel unfiltered cigarettes, Butane stove with two fuel cans, sweetwater water-filtration kit, pocket-sized Battleship game, round red-and-blue canteen, two green plastic military-style canteens, pair of sunglasses, pair of reading glasses, silver Sharper Image binoculars, "4 in 1" Radio Shack game, two drinking cups, aluminum cooking pot, pair of tweezers, package of foam earplugs, package of razor blades, tent repair kit, pair of blue wool socks with duct tape around the toes, roll of duct tape, two National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops.
Other: A pocket-sized, spiral notebook with a green cover with hand-drawn artwork depicting a heart and some figures inside the heart, including what appears to be a cat.
The first page, addressed to "Lib," begins, "I should wait in case my situation here doesn't improve. This may be the end of my journey."
"Would like for you to claim the body . . . services or memoreal. Cremation."
The CBI found the next section illegible, although individual words such as "I" and "thought" and "favor" or "flavor" could be made out.
On another page, more text could be discerned, but the CBI analysts said the writer's point is not clear. That sections reads, "Third choice take them up in a glider (I promise not to get sick on you," before becoming illegible. Some common words - "this," "you" and "not" - are identifiable.
On yet another page, the writing apparently goes, "ar on the . . . would you call her...d have it sent...you because I . . . want it to . . . where." Analysts also interpreted a recovered fragment to read, "be . . . er . . . my . . . s are going."
Possessions
--------------------------------------...
Case History
The victim was located September 8, 2004, by bow hunters in a remote area north of Glenwood Springs. The site is in the drainage of No Name Creek at about 9,700 feet elevation, about 6 miles as the crow flies from Glenwood Springs, but 12 miles by the Transfer Trail out of town.
The skeleton revealed no cause of death and the sheriff's office has been assuming it probably was natural.
The man was found in a tent at a campsite in a wooded, remote location. His trousers had rotted away, but the date of currency found at his campsite indicates he apparently had been there no longer than five years.
The letter leaves open the possibility the man was suicidal, although there is no reason to believe he killed himself. Perhaps he was terminally ill and chose to take his life. The man also could have succumbed to unexpected illness or injury while on an outing in the Flat Tops.
Much about the case is conjecture, including a theory that the man entered the Flat Tops Wilderness at a trailhead on the north and hiked four or five days across elevations of 11,000 feet before setting up his tent on a southern drainage at about 9,700 feet. That theory is supported by two moisture-proof National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops with a route drawn across them to the area where the remains were discovered. But it's possible the man picked up the maps someone else had marked and left behind.
--------------------------------------...
Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Garfield County sheriffs Office
970-945-1377, Ext. 1025
Or
Crime Tips
970-384- 3625
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
NCIC Number:
N/A
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
Glenwood Springs Post Independent
Rocky Mountain News
Need identification any real psychics want to help here?
My psychic skills are undeveloped, but sometimes I get strong feelings about certain information.
I believe his first name is John or George, and his last name starts with Mac or Mc.
He was not suicidal, but he was terminally ill, and believed that no-one could help him. He was poor in the end, after spending his lifetime's financial establishment on looking for a cure. His condition did not affect his ability to walk, carry a heavy load, survive in very cold weather or remain sane when alone for long periods. He came out to hike alone to establish peace with God, and pray that the research he financed will help his children out of this hereditary condition. His condition was physical, but it affected him neurologically, leading to mild psychosis including paranoia, boredom and hypersensitivity to light and sound. His immunological and circulatory system was sound till his last days, but there was something bad in the food he was consuming.
In his last days he became complacent, forgetting to eat and drink, and due to the loss of fat and muscle on his body, painlessly died of hypothermia in his sleep.
I hope this helps. It may not be accurate; it's just a feeling I get from reading the above report.
dr teeth
Case File 789UMCO
Notebook
Unidentified White Male
The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery
Skeletal remains
--------------------------------------...
Vital Statistics
Estimated age: Late 40s to late 50s, but could have been anywhere from 35 to 65.
Approximate Height : 6'0"
Distinguishing Characteristics: Forensic examiners say he suffered some discomfort from degeneration in his back and neck.
Dentals: The man had extensive dental work, including gold work, crowns, bridges and fillings in almost all his teeth, suggesting the man had money.
Clothing: A pair of size 9M Timberland brown-and-black hiking boots.
Possessions: Located was fragments of sleeping cushion, fragments of blue backpack, a yellow-green plastic poncho, parts of a brown sleeping bag, blue hairbrush, two plastic zipper bags, Six $100 bills, one $10 bill, one $5 bill, five $1 bills , green Eureka dome tent, blue-and-black Jansport backpack, green camping pillow, black belt with clinging long underwear fragments, Slumberjack sleeping bag, empty Tylenol bottle, eight multicolored butane lighters, one magnifying glass, one compass, fingernail clippers, bell, spoon, pepper spray, 20 packages of Camel unfiltered cigarettes, Butane stove with two fuel cans, sweetwater water-filtration kit, pocket-sized Battleship game, round red-and-blue canteen, two green plastic military-style canteens, pair of sunglasses, pair of reading glasses, silver Sharper Image binoculars, "4 in 1" Radio Shack game, two drinking cups, aluminum cooking pot, pair of tweezers, package of foam earplugs, package of razor blades, tent repair kit, pair of blue wool socks with duct tape around the toes, roll of duct tape, two National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops.
Other: A pocket-sized, spiral notebook with a green cover with hand-drawn artwork depicting a heart and some figures inside the heart, including what appears to be a cat.
The first page, addressed to "Lib," begins, "I should wait in case my situation here doesn't improve. This may be the end of my journey."
"Would like for you to claim the body . . . services or memoreal. Cremation."
The CBI found the next section illegible, although individual words such as "I" and "thought" and "favor" or "flavor" could be made out.
On another page, more text could be discerned, but the CBI analysts said the writer's point is not clear. That sections reads, "Third choice take them up in a glider (I promise not to get sick on you," before becoming illegible. Some common words - "this," "you" and "not" - are identifiable.
On yet another page, the writing apparently goes, "ar on the . . . would you call her...d have it sent...you because I . . . want it to . . . where." Analysts also interpreted a recovered fragment to read, "be . . . er . . . my . . . s are going."
Possessions
--------------------------------------...
Case History
The victim was located September 8, 2004, by bow hunters in a remote area north of Glenwood Springs. The site is in the drainage of No Name Creek at about 9,700 feet elevation, about 6 miles as the crow flies from Glenwood Springs, but 12 miles by the Transfer Trail out of town.
The skeleton revealed no cause of death and the sheriff's office has been assuming it probably was natural.
The man was found in a tent at a campsite in a wooded, remote location. His trousers had rotted away, but the date of currency found at his campsite indicates he apparently had been there no longer than five years.
The letter leaves open the possibility the man was suicidal, although there is no reason to believe he killed himself. Perhaps he was terminally ill and chose to take his life. The man also could have succumbed to unexpected illness or injury while on an outing in the Flat Tops.
Much about the case is conjecture, including a theory that the man entered the Flat Tops Wilderness at a trailhead on the north and hiked four or five days across elevations of 11,000 feet before setting up his tent on a southern drainage at about 9,700 feet. That theory is supported by two moisture-proof National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops with a route drawn across them to the area where the remains were discovered. But it's possible the man picked up the maps someone else had marked and left behind.
--------------------------------------...
Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Garfield County sheriffs Office
970-945-1377, Ext. 1025
Or
Crime Tips
970-384- 3625
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
NCIC Number:
N/A
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
Source Information:
Glenwood Springs Post Independent
Rocky Mountain News
Need identification any real psychics want to help here?
My psychic skills are undeveloped, but sometimes I get strong feelings about certain information.
I believe his first name is John or George, and his last name starts with Mac or Mc.
He was not suicidal, but he was terminally ill, and believed that no-one could help him. He was poor in the end, after spending his lifetime's financial establishment on looking for a cure. His condition did not affect his ability to walk, carry a heavy load, survive in very cold weather or remain sane when alone for long periods. He came out to hike alone to establish peace with God, and pray that the research he financed will help his children out of this hereditary condition. His condition was physical, but it affected him neurologically, leading to mild psychosis including paranoia, boredom and hypersensitivity to light and sound. His immunological and circulatory system was sound till his last days, but there was something bad in the food he was consuming.
In his last days he became complacent, forgetting to eat and drink, and due to the loss of fat and muscle on his body, painlessly died of hypothermia in his sleep.
I hope this helps. It may not be accurate; it's just a feeling I get from reading the above report.
dr teeth
Is my size good ?????
am 16 yr old female......5 ft tall and my size is 34 24 31......is this size good or should i become thinner....as some people say that i should become thin and others say that i should gain weight....is this type of vital statistics considered hot/average/bad for my height and age.....
please tell me as i feel very confused....
Is my size good ?????
You sound fine to me; but for the sake of providing data beyond my subjective opinion, check out these 2 links to an article on the subject:
http://www.femininebeauty.info/news.php/...
http://www.femininebeauty.info/
I confess that I was surprised to find this data so quickly.
Good luck.
p.s. "contentment is the greatest gift; don't let anyone steal it from you."
Reply:These must be american sizes cause in the UK we have sizes 4 6 8 10 12 14 all the way up to 24 but instead of those numbers yours are in the 30's so I dont know what is equivilant to our sizes, sorrryyy.
Reply:you could actually gain a little bit in your butte 31 is smallish,
so you dont need to lose or get thinner
Reply:your body is perfect!!!
why would youwant to gain weight ??!?!?
people die to have your size
lulu
Reply:pic to rate?
Reply:you are perfect
please tell me as i feel very confused....
Is my size good ?????
You sound fine to me; but for the sake of providing data beyond my subjective opinion, check out these 2 links to an article on the subject:
http://www.femininebeauty.info/news.php/...
http://www.femininebeauty.info/
I confess that I was surprised to find this data so quickly.
Good luck.
p.s. "contentment is the greatest gift; don't let anyone steal it from you."
Reply:These must be american sizes cause in the UK we have sizes 4 6 8 10 12 14 all the way up to 24 but instead of those numbers yours are in the 30's so I dont know what is equivilant to our sizes, sorrryyy.
Reply:you could actually gain a little bit in your butte 31 is smallish,
so you dont need to lose or get thinner
Reply:your body is perfect!!!
why would youwant to gain weight ??!?!?
people die to have your size
lulu
Reply:pic to rate?
Reply:you are perfect
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